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Part 37 of 93 in the series Obamacare
GLITCHES: Obamacare navigators in Nebraska have not been able to sign up a single person for insurance, two weeks into the rollout.

GLITCHES: Obamacare navigators in Nebraska have not been able to sign up a single person for insurance, two weeks into the rollout.

 

By Deena Winter | Nebraska Watchdog

Updated 8:20 p.m. Thursday
LINCOLN — Two weeks into the roll out of Obamacare’s online health insurance market, the two organizations chosen to help uninsured Nebraskans navigate the system haven’t been able to sign up a single person for coverage.

Community Action of Nebraska was awarded about $562,000 and The Ponca Tribe of Nebraska nearly $38,000 to help people find health insurance on the federally run insurance exchange that began operating — and we use that term loosely — Oct. 1.  The online marketplace, Healthcare.gov, repeatedly freezes, says “come back later” or crashes when people attempt to create an account so they can shop around for a plan.

Roger Furrer, executive director of Community Action, was tasked with helping nearly 40,000 uninsured Nebraskans navigate Obamacare. The group hired 62 “navigators” to educate Nebraskans and walk them through the enrollment process.

Although Community Action had received about 450 calls as of Wednesday, Furrer wasn’t aware of a single person who had successfully navigated the process, either online or by phone.

“It’s still an exercise in frustration for most people,” he said. “We are finally starting to get people past the barrier of creating their account.”

Jan Henderson, spokeswoman for the Ponca Tribe, said they haven’t been able to sign anyone up either.

“Our navigators are still having problems accessing the application online,” she said via email. “We try several times a day and have called the (toll free) number in which we are told that they are experiencing technical difficulties.”

The tribe is charged with helping American Indians in 15 counties navigate the new health insurance program.

Furrer said people would get close, and then the website would crash. One person was very close to success — at the verification stage — when some of the information they’d already entered didn’t pull through.

“We knew that it was going to be a rough start,” he said. “I don’t think that we estimated that it would be as slow as it was.”

Furrer said Nebraskans have been very patient and polite about the glitches, but their patience is wearing thin after two weeks.

“They basically just want confirmation that they’re not the only ones having the same problem,” he said. “The number of frayed tempers is beginning to increase … It’s a totally understandable reaction. I totally get it. We would love to be able to fix it.”

But fix it he can’t, since Nebraska is one of nearly three dozen states that opted not to create their own insurance markets and instead left it up to the feds.

He thinks part of the problem is most of his clients are trying to sign up during the day, during peak traffic times.

Although the crush of people trying to get on the site was initially blamed for the glitches, experts increasingly believe the site was bogged because initially, people were required to first set up an account and divulge personal information. The site now allows people to check out the prices before setting up an account.

That’s what puzzled Lincoln accountant Todd Blome when he tried to use the website to see what the marketplace had to offer after learning his individual Blue Cross Blue Shield Nebraska plan was being cancelled and he’d have to pay a 65 percent higher premium for a similar plan that complies with Obamacare mandates.

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STICKER SHOCK: Todd Blome’s family’s premiums will increase 65 percent under Obamacare if they want to stay on a plan comparable to their current individual plan.

Whereas he got his previous plan by shopping around on ehealthinsurance.com without having to divulge personal information first, on Healthcare.gov comparison shopping is the last step.

“This is so backwards and counterintuitive,” he said. “What other e-commerce site handles a product shopping and purchase experience like this?”

After two days of trying to log in to Healthcare.gov, he finally succeeded, but then was asked “a bunch of personal information,” including his Social Security number, email address, income and phone number.

“I’m not interested in the government’s full body cavity search so I entered some bogus information,” Blome said. “The page crashed when I clicked to go to the next screen.”

He wasn’t able to log in again the next day and after several days of trying he said, “I’m done trying.”

Blome decided to directly contact the four insurance companies selling policies on the Nebraska exchange. He can buy a policy directly from them since he’s not eligible for a federal tax credit anyway. Blue Cross is one of the companies, and their options are the same ones he’d already been presented (the cheapest is a 55 percent increase in his premium).

He wasn’t able to get pricing from two of the companies, and the fourth company, CoOpportunity (a cooperative created with federal financing) had a cheaper premium ($750 versus $826) but with higher co-pays and much higher out-of-network costs.

He plans to shop on ehealthinsurance.com again when they have new plans available later this fall.

“I’m officially done with the federal exchange,” he said. “My patience and tolerance for dealing with this government-run mess has reached its limit. I’m actually very blessed that I don’t have to purchase my insurance through the government exchange. I feel sorry for those that have to.”

Contact Deena Winter at deena@nebraskawatchdog.org.

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  • gerardharbison

    Esurance wants you to shop around, and make a decision to buy something because you like it. Obama doesn’t want you to shop around before you make a commitment, because they don’t want you to see the unsubsidized price and run away screaming.

    I like this article. It contains a lot of actual facts and reporting. An interesting companion piece by Philip Klein in the Washington Examiner looks at ObamaCare from the other end. Insurance execs are saying the trickle of applications coming through are hopelessly corrupted, with multiple, different applications from the same person, without timestamps. And they say the critical deadline is Jan. 1, at which point thousands of people who think they have insurance will find out they don’t, because of foul ups in the system. That’s 2.5 months to fix everything, with Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays wedged in there.

    What I don’t understand is that Dems claim to care deeply about health care. If one cared so deeply, why would one allocate a mere 6 months to get it done, and produce something so completely trashy?

  • BossMan

    Republicans care about healthcare and their fellow Americans. Nah, that sounds too weird and is complete fiction.
    Gerald, what I don’t understand is if republicans cared so much about solving the nation’s problems why don’t they come with solutions? You don’t have any, that’s why.
    Gerald-you are a member of bitch brigade. Same ole bitching-no solutions.

  • HuGnu

    There is still almost two full months before someone NEEDS to sign up in order to get coverage starting January 1st, and the Open Enrollment lasts until March of 2014.
    No one should defend shoddy web design, but many websites are best redesigned by the real use anyway.
    Nebraska could have developed its own exchange and had a system like the one in California that actually works for people, but our Governor said no. This was a dumb decision, and one that hurts Nebraskans.
    No one is required to use the Healthcare.gov site, although there should be an expectation that this works well and works well SOON. Still, I doubt very many are really ready to commit to an insurance plan until they know all the data. With all the misinformation, I am sure most are confused and many are cautious. That should be expected.
    I sincerely hope that Mr Blome gets his insurance needs taken care of soon. Then maybe Deena can find another person to talk to about Obamacare. Or maybe we will be following him through his medical care next year.

  • HuGnu

    Does ObamaCare cover an OptiRectomy*?

    *The procedure that severs the nerve path that covers the connection from the Optic nerve to the Rectum, and end his Crappy Outlook on Life.

  • gerardharbison

    Oh good, intelligent comment.

    If you really cared, you’d not have screwed it up.

  • gerardharbison

    Are recta a particular interest of yours?

  • Chaz in Kenesaw

    When I retired and my military reserves pension started, I was also covered by Tricare health insurance. I was able to drop my health insurance thru my job. Checking on the cost if I had stayed on BC/BS, under Obama care, my monthly premium for almost the exact coverage/deductables would have saved me $102 a month. My generous employer had covered 80% of the premium. I already got one benefit, my last annual physical was “free” in that it had no co-pay.

  • gerardharbison

    Read the Examiner article. There’s less time than you think. If you enroll in March, you’ll pay the fine.

    The Obama administration is in denial. You can’t fix something you don’t want to know is broken.

    Nebraska could also have had its own website like Hawaii or Delaware, both of which are worse than healthcare.gov. Besides, are you arguing that Nasty Dave Heineman would have overseen a better exchange than Saint Barack the Wonderful? I’m sure Dave will be pleased. And even if Nebraska had its own site, it would still have to interact with the federal servers, which are kerflooie.

  • HuGnu

    no, but do find them useful to get rid of the crap instead of holding on to it. I would recommend this to you.

  • LukeinNE

    Dude….they’ve had *three years* and hundreds of millions of dollars to get this right, and they’re not even close. As for California, as of two days ago they have *zero* confirmed enrollees. – http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2013/10/14/how-many-people-have-enrolled-in-obamacare-an-early-look/

    This is a catastrophe across the board, and there’s a reason conservatives oppose putting anything this big under the direction of the government. You can’t blame Republicans for this mess, the Democrats passed a law that doesn’t work with no GOP votes, and Democrat-run governments, federal and state, are botching the delivery systems across the country.

  • HuGnu

    Fines will be prorated for the part of the year you did not have insurance. It may turn out that they will be waived for this group. The point is that many will not sign up until they absolutely have to, so this false sense of urgency is ridiculous.
    The website is being repaired as per contract. It is silly to assume that it would not be.
    Actually, the idiot Governor would only have to stand out of the way, and the real leaders in Nebraska could have designed a Website. As Obama did not design the website and is not responsible for its working or not, neither would Hineyman.
    You know not what you are talking about and continue to invent new reasons to dislike something.
    Either sign up or don’t but QUIT YOUR BITCHING.

  • Curious

    Dude….Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, etc, etc, did not work right out of the gate either. You pooped and peed your pants for at least two years fright after you came out of the gate also. Get over it! The Affordable Care Act is here to stay! Yea!

  • Bam

    Try to keep it together today, Rich. Some of us get tired of your poop obsession.

  • HuGnu

    YAWN – These talking points have expired. Please select a more current argument or sit quietly until you actually know something

  • Bam

    You have zero defense against anything he said, Rich.

  • Curious

    Maybe you think HuGnu had zero defense but how do you justify that Repubs cost this country $25 Billion to shut down the government trying to defund “Obama” care? Justify that cost to the people! This President was elected to office twice by the people and one of the reasons was the ACA. The joke is on you radicals, you are to quote Newt Gingrich, “dying on the vine”.

  • http://www.Vernon-J.com/ Vernon J

    We were promised that the costs wouldn’t increase. Broken Promises!!! ACA Failure continues. #StillSeems

  • Bam

    How about Obama cost us that by trying (and succeeding) in saddling out kids with another TRILLION dollars in debt? He was NOT reelected for ACA – Obama’s victory in 2012 turned on many issues, including immigration, foreign policies toward China and in the Middle East, and the environment. It is disingenuous to say his election affirmed voter support for ACA.

    Poll after poll before, during and after revealed the majority of Americans don’t like ACA and want it substantially revised or repealed. Obama and the Senate have repeatedly ignored those polls.

  • gerardharbison

    Medicaid still doesn’t work very well.

    And you weren’t fined for not using it.

  • gerardharbison

    That’s a laugh, coming from an OFAbot.

  • gerardharbison

    When we had a Democrat President who wasn’t a joke, he used to have a sign on his desk that read “The buck stops here”. Obama probably thinks that’s racist.

    Actually, I know a great deal about healthcare.gov. i’ve been through some of the deluge of .js files it sends to clients. On the other hand, as far as I can tell, you are just an OFA shill, who seems to know nothing about website design or architecture.

    And no, I’m not going to stop pointing out the flaws in your messiah’s signature project. If you don’t like what I post, don’t read it.

  • gerardharbison

    ‘Childish humor’. Who brought recta into the conversation, idiot?

  • Teri
  • HuGnu

    So sad to see that after all the information that you have been through, that you have so little to show for it. You make the most idiotic of statements that show despite what you may “know” you obviously do not understand much, or are simply unable to see beyond your partisan beliefs.
    You need to set aside you desire to bring down Obama when you are trying to sound like you know what you are talking about. Otherwise, you are just one more idiot saying things he does not understand.

  • HuGnu

    You were never promised this, and it is not relevant to the discussion. You cannot just repeat some bad bumper sticker talking point.

  • Bam

    So, if Gerard identifies you as an idiot, Rich, your counter is to twice call him an idiot? That’s all your three college degrees get you at this point in your life?

  • Bam

    Oh, so the word “Affordable” should have been taken as a lie, Rich? Gotcha.

  • HuGnu

    All plans are to have the annual physical paid, as this is one of the ideas that will lower overall healthcare emergency usage, and promote a more positive health attitude rather than using doctors when you are near death.

  • Teri
  • Bam

    Sounds good, Rich. And how are your investments with Bernie Madoff working out?

  • HuGnu

    Sorry that you are unable to see the difference between noting your negative outlook on all things with your desire to focus only on one word.
    Seems that you have the childish inability to look at the totality, and instead just look to attack.
    Sorry Bubba, no points for you.

  • Curious

    You know what Bam…I am not going down this road with you. I could say SHIT you would say Crap and never would we agree. President Obama has been a great president regardless of all the attempts of the Mitch McConnells, Ted Cruzes, Rand Pauls, Sarah Palans, and on and on. You people are a deranged minority who’s time has come and gone. Hopefully now that you all have made fools of yourselves with this government shut down and ran the debt up another $25 Billion dollars we can get back to working on creating jobs, fixing the problems with immigrations and all the other things you mentioned our president wanted to do. Of course he could not do them because the party of obstruction AKA Republicans have been working overtime since he was sworn in as President. We will see you at the polls Mr. Wacko!

  • Teri

    since it will not show the website here let me explain what it is, it is a LAW that insurance companies cannot raise our premiums more than 10% without justification. Nebraska is one of nine states that have been excessive. Maybe because we have a republican oligarchy that only cares about how their pockets get lined by insurance kings in this state????

  • http://www.Vernon-J.com/ Vernon J

    I’ll just provide you with this quote. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/521/cut-cost-typical-familys-health-insurance-premium-/ for the record 93 characters is quite a bit to put on a bumper sticker.

  • Teri
  • gerardharbison

    I gather your name is Rich. Rich, there’s something you should learn about debate. You win a debate by showing your adversary’s points are absurd or illogical, or his facts are incorrect. Simply calling them names like ‘idiotic’ convinces nobody.

    I feel sorry for you. English is clearly not your native language. But your problem isn’t style, it’s substance. I don’t think you’ve posted a single substantial fact on this thread.

  • HuGnu

    Nothing here says that COST would not increase, and the aggregate totals are not available.
    Now I realize that some people choose to focus on the concrete, and are not comfortable with abstract thinking, but come one, surely you can think beyond what others tell you.

  • gerardharbison

    You’re not serious? Three college degrees?

  • gerardharbison

    I see, your mind is made up, and you resent facts being used in the discussion.

  • gerardharbison

    He hates facts, and prefers fairy tales, which he calls ‘abstract thinking’.

  • HuGnu

    You can gather (or assume) anything you want from your little friend. However, you are not debating, as you are not putting up anything factual, just continuing your usual bitching using talking points that you claim to understand, but obviously do not.
    Idiotic is not a name, but a description of you actions. And as you hold fast to this absurd reality, you must claim the name for yourself.
    Nice try at trying to hijack this thread to follow the Baits and Masterbaits techniques. This only proves that you have nothing of value to share, and are just interesting in arguing, but not in discussion.
    Let me know when and if you actually want to have a discussion, and are willing to put off you clowning.

  • guest

    Since the state on Nebraska has nothing to do with it. Maybe it is the Democratic oligarchy in Washington DC who only care that they got the law passed but not how it functions. I find it truly amazing that libs have no problem blaming everything on Republicans. Can’t you people take responsibility for anything? You were told by the Republicans this would happen. Obama lied to you. Try living in realty for a change.

  • HuGnu

    Is this your best debate strategy?

  • HuGnu

    Where did you use a fact?
    All you do is bitch and complain without offering anything real.
    Yes my mind is made up, and there is nothing wrong with that. I am not require to listen to your rants first, am I?

  • gerardharbison

    You haven’t started to debate yet. Would you like to?

  • HuGnu

    What do you mean the State of Nebraska has nothing to do with it? Maybe you are not understanding this very much. But the rates are not determined in DC. The companies do that on their own, and Nebraska allows more increase than most states.

  • HuGnu

    Not really. I am not sure if you have a real position.
    Hating everything that Obama does and says is nothing worth debating. You just like to bitch. So go ahead and play with your little friend, and leave the discussion to others.
    Thanks

  • gerardharbison

    See the first post in this subthread, where I cited an article from the Washington Examiner. There you will find out the federal health exchange is passing non-timestamped, multiply duplicated applications to insurance companies, which are then unable to process them. That’s a real issue, Rich.

    Another issue is that the whole effort wasn’t started until the spring of this year. That’s far too little time. There is really no excuse; ObamaCare was passed in 2010. That’s another real issue.

    You are absolutely not required to read anything I say. But yet you seem to.

  • gerardharbison

    Funny. But a little sad.

  • guest

    How about because government does not have solutions? They are like the Keystone Cops. And those who follow like lemmings off a cliff?

  • guest

    His mind is like a steel trap. Somethings get in but they never get out. Of his 1238 posts, you would be hard pressed to find any that have facts. His facts are his opinions and unfortunately he has opinions on everything including your bum. Be careful, he can get unnaturally obsessive about men:)

  • HuGnu

    Oh great it is the Libertarian01 Troll here now.

  • gerardharbison

    Well, no. Reporting real, actual problems with the exchanges is not bitching. Wild rants in bad English that contain nothing but insults, now that is bitching.

    My position is that the federal health exchange, and the information processing system that underlies it, is incredibly incompetently designed. I know many people far more knowledgeable about this than I, and their opinion is universally that the flaws are fundamental and structural, and that it will never work well. I think this is shameful, given the vast resources that were pumped into it.

    Obama is a remarkable clever politician and an absolutely abysmal administrator. He is wonderful at getting elected, and hasn’t a clue what to do when the election’s over. His management of the economy has been awful, he’s made hires and awarded contracts to reward political allies rather than to do his job properly. Imagine using so much political capital to create a national health care system, making it your signature achievement, and then not bothering to make sure it’s implemented effectively.

  • guest

    The rates are set according to the ACA law. Not Nebraska law. Either that or Obama has lied all along how your rates will be affected by the ACA. Which is it, you can’t have it both ways? If you can’t get it right, go and play in the sandbox with the cat feces and urine. Remember, do not stick the sand in your mouth.

  • HuGnu

    OH MY GOD – how are people still not understanding even the most basic of facts.
    Oh never mind this is just Libertarian01 still just trying to cause trouble.

  • guest

    Your obsession is showing! Get over it. He is gone no matter how badly you want him back or are you having trouble getting over your erotic dreams of him?

  • guest

    Prove me wrong. Won’t happen will it?

  • gerardharbison

    The rates are capped by the ACA itself.

  • gerardharbison

    It won’t happen because you’re correct.

  • guest

    You shouldn’t use facts with Hu. He gets confused and flustered and then resorts to name calling and gibberish opinion. Oh wait, that is what he always does! Never mind:)

  • HuGnu

    LOL – thanks for showing how you are not a partisan and do not rant (although a partisan rant is not the best tool for that.)

    So can you tell us all why you were talking about esurance?
    Why you were talking about seeing all the client files?
    why you refer to everyone with an opposite opinion as an OFAbot?
    Tell me again how fair you are, please. How rational your argument is. How you are so skilled in the art of debate.

    Try using real data and information and then drawing any conclusions.I am not introducing new information, only challenging the absurdities that people like you try to use to make partisan attacks.

    You do not claim to be an expert on insurance so at least we can agree on that.

  • Kevin

    That was over a half-million down the drain.

  • HuGnu

    Capped is very different than set. Do you understand the role of Nebraska regulations in setting Insurance rates?

  • HuGnu

    There is nothing down the drain. It continues and will be repaired. These stories are really rather non-issue related.
    Have you selected your policy on Healthcare.gov?

  • gerardharbison

    That wasn’t a partisan rant. Many strong supporters of Obama, such as Robert Gibbs and Ezra Klein, have come to the same conclusion. Both Klein and Gibbs have said the Obamacare roll-out is a disgrace. But then, while I disagree with them, they are both thoughtful individuals.

    Do you know what I was referring to as a client file? Do you know what javascript is?

    Yes, it’s quite clear you are not introducing new information, or any information for that matter. You were given a talking point and you are trying to work from it. Give it up.

  • gerardharbison

    He’ll have to wait to take a month off to do that.

    Are you being paid for this, Rich, or are you doing it for free?

  • gerardharbison

    Half a billion.

  • HuGnu

    ACA does not require that BCBS set aside an amount for the CEO Bonus, BCBS does.
    You realize that there are BCBS rates that did decrease. The only ACA considerations for setting the rates are the new inclusion of services covered and the increase pool of potentials involved. Just like always.

  • Kevin

    $562,000 for the community of Nebraska is what I was referring to.

  • HuGnu

    LOL

    By the way – why does a person like you who wants Obamacare to fail even care who can sign up? Is this false compassion for the clients?
    Will you celebrate when everything starts working out?

  • gerardharbison

    All Nebraska could really do is create rating areas. The DOI does some oversight for the feds, and licenses agents and navigators. They do nothing at all to set rates.

  • HuGnu

    Please do not cut and paste my comments back to me. Show some originality.

    Yes I realize what you were referring to, I was asking you to place those comment in context of this discussion as you claim an expertise on debate. I am wondering what they had to do with the points you were trying to make, whatever that may be. I am still trying to figure that out.

    No one is claiming the rollout was good. But that is last weeks news, and as anyone who deals with online marketing knows, you move on, and yesterday is never as important as tomorrow.

    I am not sure why you are so fixated on two weeks ago.

  • Kevin

    Those who believed Pelosi and Obama will be the first to blame someone else as the problems and glitches in this fiasco continue to arise.

  • gerardharbison

    Now you’re lying. The rates are regulated federally to limit age differentials, surcharges for tobacco use, etc. Using real actuarial data, companies would charge the old more and the young less.

    But the problem is that Blue Cross Blue Shield pay their CEO a bonus?

  • HuGnu

    OK so you do not know much about Nebraska regulations and insurance (which is controlled at the state level and not at the federal level.) Rates are subject to state regulations, and are set by actuaries as to the calculated risks.
    BCBS is completely in the drivers seat. Do not suck in too much Tea BS. Get your facts, they are available.

  • HuGnu

    Which Federal agency regulated the insurance industry?

  • LukeinNE

    Laughing at the incompetent rollout of 404ErrorCare will be “expired” when the exchanges are actually working properly.

    How much is OFA paying you to carry their water, anyway?

  • gerardharbison

    Paid, or free?

    ObamaCare will fail anyway. It’s a heavy subsidy on the old and sick by the young and healthy. The fines are too small, so the young will opt out. But it’s fun watching it fail so much faster because of the incompetence of the administration.

  • gerardharbison

    Oh, OK, sorry.

  • gerardharbison

    HHS

  • gerardharbison

    Actuaries work for the insurance companies, not the state. You have failed to sufficiently memorize your talking points.

    There are four companies operating in the exchange for Nebraska, including one cooperative set up under ACA. BCBS does not have a monopoly.

    But I see it’s once again someone else’s fault. it’s a mantra for this administration.

  • LukeinNE

    Medicare and Medicaid are funded by taxes. It doesn’t matter whether 10 people sign up or 10 million people sign up, the US government will find a way to honor those commitments.

    The problem for Obamacare is that the whole thing falls apart if not enough people (particularly young healthy people) sign up. The opening two weeks (which should have been the best period for enrollments while enthusiasm was high) put them on pace to enroll 800,000 people by the March deadline. The administration’s self-imposed minimum is 7 million enrollees. I shouldn’t need to connect the dots about where we’re heading beyond that.

  • gerardharbison

    The problems are not fixed. The Journal Star this morning claims none of the navigators have been able to sign anyone up in Nebraska.

    So explain to me the function of javascript files in the operation of the ObamaCare website. And make it quick; I don’t have time for you to call someone.

  • gerardharbison

    Whatever it is, it’s way too much. He’s really not very good. And couldn’t they have found someone whose first language is English?

  • HuGnu

    LOL
    In what department?
    who is the commissioner of Health Insurance?
    Health Insurance remains a state run system which was one of the early challenges to ACA.
    ACA does not move the industry including rate setting under the feds.

  • Insurance25

    I wrote one yesterday! 32 yrs as an agent. I have seen a lot of Company computer programs-Part D Certifications, AHIP, Property & Casualty, etc. Marketplace still needs some streamlining. I took almost 2 hours with the insured present. E-mails to their personal e-mail address and then logging back in every time. Too much info for the ordinary consumer to process. I hope everyone gets help from an Agent.

  • HuGnu

    You are in agreement with me about the rates being set by the companies, whether the actuaries are employees are contracted services.
    No one ever said anything about BCBS having a monopoly, so I am not sure what you are disagreeing on – do you? The only statement was that BCBS had some plans with decrease in addition to the plans that are so public about the increase premium.
    There are still additional ways to purchase insurance outside of the exchange – there is a group called Marketplace that is not associated with the exchange

  • Bam

    You’re pretty foul-mouthed for a 77-year-old granny, Curious! But seeing as you’re so close to your dirt nap, I can see why you could care less about trillions of dollars of debt getting loaded onto future generations. As soon as Obama’s gone, you’re not going to believe the number of exposes come out from the Left talking about how he played the media and his supporters… including you.

  • HuGnu

    no one ever said the problems ARE fixed. But they will be. The poor rollout will only be remembered by people like you with a certain agenda.

  • http://ProgressiveOasis.com/ ProgressiveOasis

    This article is lying. I know people who have signed up.

  • Bam

    That’s what he’s bragged about. He was trying to convince people on here that he was so much more educated than anyone else. Of course, Rich now works in a laundromat – a noble profession, but he’s certainly not cleaning up courtesy of his education.

  • LukeinNE

    This is a simple red herring dude. I’m a Republican, I think my party was stupid to play a major role in shutting the government down in a battle they weren’t going to win, so you’re right on that.

    Except this article is about the failings of the health care law. The healthcare law that Republicans had no say in crafting, unanimously opposed, and have next to no role in administering. Like it or not, this steaming pile is on the Democrats, and the Democrats alone. The shut down had absolutely nothing to do with the failings of the healthcare law.

  • guest

    Wrong, The ACA specifies how much of the premiums collected have to used for payouts to the clients. Excess’ must be refunded to the insured. So there is the first one you have wrong.

  • LukeinNE

    One of the few quirks I like about ObamaCare is that the “fines” for noncompliance aren’t even fines. The only thing the IRS can do to enforce the mandate is withhold people’s tax refunds.

    If a person works with their payroll department to avoid having a refund owed to them, there’s nothing the IRS can withhold to punish you. The law prevents them from taking you to court, garnishing wages, or filing charges for not paying the penalty.

  • guest

    If that is true, why do young healthy males pay some of the highest rates? A report from the conservative American Action Forum found that health insurance rates
    for 2.7 million people aged 18 to 35 — the so-called young invincibles crucial to the health-care law’s success — would rise dramatically.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/03/study-obamacare-spikes-young-peoples-health-insurance-costs/#ixzz2i0R1qr00

    None of your opinions please. Find a credible source, even CNN, that disproves this article.

  • Curious

    So according to your crystal ball and all your right wing doom and gloom minority people, it has been determined if you continue to protest long enough, at the expense of the majority, things will remain the same even though universal healthcare is in the best interest of ALL the people not just those of financial means. I don’t know how many years old you are but I know this, you are not up and running perfectly either. You could use a healthy attitude adjustment also.

  • LukeinNE

    I’m pretty sure you and gerard are on the same page. The way I read gerard’s comment was that absent the market-distorting effects of Obamacare, young people would pay less, while the old would pay more, which is basically what your article said as well.

  • LukeinNE

    I’m not sure how this is a reply to anything I said. What I said in numbered points:

    1. Medicare/Medicaid are not good comparisons for ObamaCare because they are tax-funded and their solvency does not rest on enrollment numbers. Obamacare’s does.

    2. The administration projects that they will need 7 million enrollees to get the system up and running by the March deadline. They’re on track for 800,000.

  • Curious

    Brilliant…”It’s a heavy subsidy on the old and sick by the young and healthy.”. ALL insurance is based on this fact. Be careful how you throw the word incompetence around.

  • HuGnu

    This has nothing to do with setting the rates, but limits the amounts for administrative costs. Some insurances and some states have already had this.
    Nebraska is not among them.

  • Curious

    My response was to all of your negative comments above about how ACA cannot, will not work and on and on and on. You and your kind are stuck on an argument that is over. As a country we need to move on to immigration, jobs and gun control. The computer problems with ACA will work themselves out, you aren’t signing up so work on an issue of importance.

  • Curious

    Teri it is not true when guest stated to you that NE had nothing to do with the ACA. Our REPUBLICAN governor declined to open an exchange here in NE whereby we would receive Federal funds for three years and manpower to help get exchanges up and running to assist those who wanted to take advantage of the healthcare program. It is a goal of the Republican party to attempt to defund “Obamacare” which is a law and they alone are the party that was responsible for the recent government shut down that cost we the people $24 Billion dollars. Guest is a troll, take what he says with a grain of salt.

  • LukeinNE

    I’m just citing facts surrounding the rollout of the law. If the facts favored you, I’m sure you’d be citing them too, but you guys have got nothing right now, so you’re resorting to calling us “negative.”

    In any case, no I want to talk about this health care disaster from now until November 2016. There is not a single person in this country who this law does not affect, and a majority of the country does not want to “move on.” Gun control is dead, immigration reform is dead, and Obama should’ve been talking about jobs in his first term before he decided to go for the health care boondoggle and lose his party the House. He made this bed, now he gets to sleep in it.

  • Curious

    Go for it baby! You hang on to that dead pony and keep your head in the sand. You and Ted Cruz are delusional. Best buy yourself a neck brace cuz you are headed for a serious whip lash. Dems will be taking this country back again thanks to the “crazy” Jim Demints, Dick Armeys, etc. I love to hear you say, Immigration is over…WHOA your head is located in a very dark place. See you at the polls.

  • RonPaulforPres

    Healthcare.gov was designed to fail. By thr the White House’s Jay Carney, the website is designed to process 50,000 applications per day. Given the White House’s oen number of 40 million uninsured , ot would take the website running at full capacity (which it is not) 2 1/2 years for everyone to sign up. Yet the site was released 3months prior to implementation.

  • LukeinNE

    We will indeed. Political history says you’re in for a bitter shock, but I guess we will see.

  • Curious

    You can hardly say it has failed when it has only been available for less than a week. One of the five attachments to the CR was R demanding that Obamacare be defunded.
    The implementation of healthcare has had its problems but get over it, it is time to move on, ACA is not going away.

  • gerardharbison

    Maybe they’re lying.

  • LukeinNE

    Reading comprehension, dude, use it.

    The rollout has been an abject failure, even your fellow liberals across the board agree on that. One of the GOP’s demands involved Obamacare. So? They didn’t succeed in defunding the law, so it’s completely irrelevant to the fact that the law is currently failing.

    The debt ceiling stand off is only fair game in this thread if it somehow adversely affected the rollout of Obamacare, which of course it didn’t. So it’s you who needs to “move on.” This thread is about the failures of Obamacare, stop throwing around red herrings.

  • LukeinNE

    More likely they thought they have but the exchange botched the information transfers between the user and the insurer. There’s been a lot of that documented and it’s a likely reason for discrepancies in what users are saying and what insurers records show.

  • Teri

    While the power to deny or modify each proposed rate increase remains with the states, the authority and ability of states differs tremendously, depending on the rules of those individual states. Some state regulators closely examine proposed rate increases and insurers justifications, but other states have little capability to do so, according to Insurance Newsnet. In most states, consumers do not receive adequate information about rate increases and are not able to participate in the review process through hearings or other public forums. Most states have received federal grant funds authorized under the Affordable Care Act to improve their rate review process.

  • gerardharbison

    Nobody sets the rates except the companies. The feds made rules about what rate differentials the companies could use. The state’s only role in rate setting is to set the areas of the state to be used for community rating.

    You can repeat your nonsense all you want, but anyone with 5 minutes and a little google-fu (no offense) can find this out for themselves.

  • Teri

    If an insurer propses a 12% rate increase, for example, insurers would have to submit a “justification” to HHS and state regulators prior to implementing the rate hike. HHS will post such justifications on its website. In addition,insurers would also be required to post a justification on their websites for rate hikes that are above 10%.

  • gerardharbison

    Yep. And some poor bozos are going to have major heart attacks the first week of January, get $100 K worth of open heart surgery, and then find they don’t have the insurance they thought they had.

    Maybe OFA can offer to pay their bills.

  • Teri

    While the power to deny or modify each proposed rate increase remains with the states, the authority and ability of states differs tremendously, depending on the rules of those individual states. Some state regulators closely examine proposed rate increases and insurers justifications, but other states have little capability to do so, according to Insurance Newsnet. In most states, consumers do not receive adequate information about rate increases and are not able to participate in the review process through hearings or other public forums. Most states have received federal grant funds authorized under the Affordable Care Act to improve their rate review process.

  • gerardharbison

    Chirp chirp chirp.

    I knew he was clueless. And he seems to only work the morning shift. Afternoons I expect it’s ‘want fried with that/’

  • Hunyock

    Did they specifically get signed up by using a Navigator to assist them?

  • LukeinNE

    Total incompetence:

    “WASHINGTON — The federal health care exchange was built using
    10-year-old technology that may require constant fixes and updates for
    the next six months and the eventual overhaul of the entire system,
    technology experts told USA TODAY.”

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/17/health-exchange-week-three-start-over/2995989/

  • JoeBob

    You’re really citing to about.com? You might as well cite to someone’s personal blog. The verification of the information would be about the same.

  • HuGnu

    Then you should start googling buddy boy, as although you are essentially agreeing with me, you are trying to argue with inventing a reality that does not exist.
    So find the facts before you try to speak with the authority of truth. It is embarrassing to watch you make up a new “fact” every time you are confronted with the truth.
    It is pretty evident that you only goal is to make negative comments, not to inform anyone of anything factual. I am sure your comeback with be something in the area of name calling, or the invention of an new fantasy fact, or something else completely irrelevant.
    You seem to be very unaware of how insurance operates, and that is nothing bad. But it is wrong to lead with your ignorance. What you think you know is very wrong. But then I doubt there is anyone who really cares much about your dislike of ObamaCare. People who do not like it already had that opinion before they heard your negativity. The few open minds here can easily see that you are not using the truth, as you always have a back up lie to fill in, and a negative comment to make about anyone who challenges you.
    But then, you were trained by the worst.

  • HuGnu

    Or rely one anyone’s expertise here. LOL

  • HuGnu

    You really think that earns you points? Did Baits And Masterbaits teach you how to be an asshole?

  • Curious

    You have your head so far up your rear that you can’t see that it is the R party that is failing this country and you are on a self destruct course. The “roll out” has worked in states that are Blue. Red states continue to “obstruct” where ever possible. You take up valuable space with your doom attitude, why not try to contribute something positive for a change. Name one positive thing R have done in the last 16 days.

  • Teri

    Why do young men pay more for car insurance that’s a mandate too?

  • Teri

    Not all the information on this site is misinformation. I would cite something from Nebraska’s HHS on the subject but alas there is none because Nebraska “leader’s” (using the term loosely) don’t post on the subject because they don’t want us to know how much they don’t care! They are in the pockets of the Koch brothers and do not care what happens to the citizens of our state….that is unless you are wealthy and can put some money in their pockets!!

  • guest

    When the big 2000 computer scare was on. It was determined at that time that the FAA computers could probably not be hacked because the programming was so old. Nice to see nothing changes in the government. If you understand government at all, you know why it’s technical implementation of ACA is such a failure. Amazon does 70 million transactions a day. The government couldn’t handle at worse case scenario, 14 million. Why didn’t the government just contract with Amazon? They are incompetent. That is the short and best answer. Yet they will now control the health system in the USA. Hope that works out for everyone.

  • guest

    Well she comes alive. Having nothing to say about the topic, the hate speech comes out. Have I said anything to you on this thread? I could care less about the lying part. You have no credibility except to those who have not seen you write before. The irony is, the sate is not involved in ACA because the governor told the feds to run the exchange. That is the proof of the statement I made. Your rationale for calling me liar is that the governor told the feds. he would not run an exchange. If we are not running an exchange we are not part of the ACA. So you use my proof against me to call me a liar. So the question is, you made a statement that it is unlawful for us to mix religion and government on this site because of the separation of church and state clause in the constitution. I believed at the time that a more asinine statement has never been made on this site or any other. However, your statements above would seem to prove that you have either run out of oxygen and can not afford more until you get your obamacare or you really are spending your entitlement money on some really powerful recreational drugs. I can’t decide if the statements you made, and Teri agrees with, are the most stupid, most ignorant or the most moronic ones you have made. Since I can’t decide they must be all three. I realize now that calling you Delta Dawn was an insult to that fictional person. You are indeed a wack job with no limit to your ignorance! And no qualms with displaying it for all to see. And by agreeing with you, Teri seems to be no better off.

  • guest

    And that has what to with the ACA?

  • guest

    It is not a mandate. It is a market driven calculation based on many criteria. The government has nothing to do with it. Apples and cumquats.

  • guest

    Until now none. Now it is DHHS through Obamacare. Or maybe you now believe that Obamacare only applies to the feds. The law was meant to regulate healthcare through not only insurance but through the tax system and other systems. If you think it is the states doing that, you are no better off than Curious.

  • HuGnu

    How about paying attention and not just trolling

  • HuGnu

    DHHS does not regulate the insurance industry. It does oversee parts of the ACA, but not in a regulatory sense.
    Many Federal laws impact insurance from Commerce to Health and Human Service, but that does not rise to the level of regulation of the industry.

  • Jazzee

    LOL LOL told ya so LOL

  • Jazzee

    nope have you?

  • Jazzee

    amen amen

  • guest

    At the same time, other provisions take effect that will significantly increase the cost of coverage, such as the health insurance tax, minimum essential benefits, and restrictions on age rating.
    The cumulative impact of all of these provisions increases the
    likelihood that some individuals will choose to purchase insurance only
    after they become sick or injured, further increasing the cost of
    coverage for everyone else with insurance.

    http://www.ahip.org/Issues/Affordable-Care-Act/

    I guess more affordable to you means you can afford double to triple rate increases. By the way, how’s your experience with signing up? You haven’t said anything about it which would indicate it has not gone well for you!

  • guest

    I have seen the FAA work 15 years on a project and scrap it because they couldn’t get it right. Same for the Pentagon. Chances are 50/50 they never get it right. Obviously you know nothing about how the government builds new technical platforms. Maybe you should stay with thing you might know something about.

  • HuGnu

    Thanks for your concern, however I am sticking with the employer provided plan with no increases in premiums.

  • guest

    So we have to go all the way to Kenesaw to find someone who made it work. Now that’s funny!

  • guest

    The problem you don’t have newer talking points is that the law is stalled and is not making any progress. I hope they have something in there for your attention deficit disorder.

  • guest

    Versus the 7 trillion he has add to the debt? Why don’t you complain about that? Oh yes, your god Obama did it and he is never wrong. uber partisian!

  • HuGnu

    he added to the debt?. – you do not seem to know who appropriated the funds.

  • guest

    Actually the fight isn’t over. It’s just been kicked down the road. Don’t count your chickens before they hatch. We will be having the same discussions in Jan. and Feb. And I will agree with one thing, they should leave Obamacare alone. It is perfectly capable of failing on it’s own.

  • guest

    Your opinion is worthless. Supply any documentation that the roll out has worked in any state. I will not hold my breath.

  • HuGnu

    Evening Libertarian01 – or should I just call you TROLL.

  • guest

    So obviously in your world it is alright to oppress the minority. Now there’s a compassionate patriot. Heil curious!!!

  • HuGnu

    I would say that you seem to have wasted a lot of dollars if you failed to complete these projects. I am not sure that you would be the best person to give advice.

  • HuGnu

    Did you hide anything important in here, Troll?

  • guest

    You do realize the Jim and Dick have been out of DC for quite a few years don’t you? Can you come up with something more current. Would you like to throw in Nixon and Eisenhower? Or don’t you really want to move on?

  • guest

    Can you prove anything in that post? For that matter can you prove anything in any of your posts? Your as batty Curious and just as fact less. Your opinion means nuts. From Billy Joel. He knows you well!

  • guest

    Your mind is made up and you will not give up your erotic dreams of Libertarian? WOW. An admitted stalker. No wonder the Lib left this board. You are truly a perv!

  • HuGnu

    Libertarian01 – Troll. guest(Guest) – Troll.

  • guest

    According to you and Curious it is not the House’s job to originate revenue bills. They are only to do what the Senate and the Pres. tell them to do. So yes, the Pres. and Harry can take the blame along with any miniscule glory that goes with it. Does it ever hurt talking out of your anus and mouth at the same time? Are the really different?

  • HuGnu

    A Troll by any name is still a TROLL.
    Tell Linda goodnight.

  • guest

    Whatever trips your perv trigger Gollum:)

  • HuGnu

    TROLL

  • HuGnu

    TROLL

  • guest

    Funny as a crutch Rich! Still nothing of substance. Your consistency on saying nothing is amazing. Even a blind squirrel tells some truth.

  • guest

    If you can’t find it, maybe you need to go to the kiddie board. I don’t want to tax your perv brain with real adult talk and facts.

  • guest

    Are you really that stupid????

  • HuGnu

    Sorry, I did not realize that you were blind. That probably accounts for why you were unable to complete the FAA project.

  • guest

    Another great come back by the squirrel!! You are so smart. How can any rock out shine you? Yet they do!

  • guest

    And with that tremendous come back, I believe it was a death blow. Oh? Actually it was just gas. I have a hard time telling between you and gas!

  • HuGnu

    LOL – and you think your “come backs” are good????
    LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

  • guest

    Hey Tin Man. You can’t say it again. the software won’t let you. (Or so it said to me.) But you should pay attention to the man behind the curtain. You need all the help, and drugs from Curious, you can get.

  • guest

    My name Hu. I swing from tree to tree with monkeys. How come they never fall? My head hurts!

  • HuGnu

    Hi Hu.

  • HuGnu

    TROLL

  • guest

    Will do. what about Rachel, Susie, Amber and Helga? Alas, I can not make up for you having Curious. It is very heartbreaking. Does she really have all false teeth?

  • Guest

    You really are confused aren’t you?????

  • guest

    Maybe mine are not the greatest but the rocks out shine you! Isn’t it about your bed time. Curious get’s lonely without your Sasquatch body close to hers.

  • HuGnu

    LOL – you are a riot.

  • HuGnu

    TROLL

  • Curious

    First and foremost, it is a Constitutional Right…There shall be separation of Church and State. This is a public space, and I do not have to have you up in my face spewing YOUR religion. I don’t have to have you in my families face or my friends faces while going to Planned Parenthood for services and you scream, “Baby Killer!”. Secondly you just changed the words around related to the governor. Any way it is said, Nebraskans lost out on the ACA assistance because of radical nuts like you and Gov Heni. Lastly, I am going to ignore entries like yours because you are a waste of time. You only bring to the table a conversation of selfish, uncaring and destructive attitudes that will only bring down this great country.

  • guest

    I have absolutely no idea what you are saying. Maybe Hu can translate. He speaks liberal gibberish. Although I do no do it, the situations you cite are examples of free speech that yes you have to put up with or you can stay inside and stay off the computer. There is no constitutional right that is enumerated in the constitution about separation of church and state. That was in a letter written by Jefferson.

    Response:

    That is true, the phrase “separation of church and state” does not actually appear anywhere in the Constitution.

    http://atheism.about.com/od/churchstatemyths/a/phrase.htm

    Sorry I don’t write to or talk to the governor. But the question you can’t and won’t answer, why don’t the government exchanges put people in Medicaid anyway? It is a Federal government program. Obama has stuck it to you people again and you don’t even know it. It is not the sate. I would suggest before you blow another gasket you find someone who you trust to explain the concept behind the constitutional phrase: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof… Your responses just keep getting more wacky since you refuse to listen to anybody but your self and you have not proven your self right yet. Take your secular religion and go spew your hate somewhere else. Your almost worse than the foul mouth Hu.

  • guest

    Curious, that knocking at your back door is the Iranians. They say they do no have an Ayatollah that can hold a candle to the hatred and misinformation you spread about the USA. They want to hire you full time. Imagine, you can now get paid to hate. I hear they have great health care there. Just no more talk about your vagina. They cut off heads for that!

  • pragmatist

    Yes, but the ACA changed the risk pools. Simply stated, it mixes more disparate groups to make it more “equitable”. The healthier and younger pay premiums in pools consisting of more individuals of different risk levels than would be used in a non-gov’t mandated system. So, yes GH is correct if he means “heavy” in comparison to pre-ACA risk pools. The young pay more into less characteristic pools to pay for the ill health of older and less healthy people in general.

  • pragmatist

    NE would have been on the hook for that supposed three years of funding later. Typical fed blackmail. It would have cost the state more money as well to set up our own exchange. Along with several other fed mandates, it’s unfeasible and unconscionable to place the weight of that on the state when the fed gov’t could pick up the bill for the creation of its marketplace for the same cost and, it was hoped by some, the same effect.

  • Curious

    Interesting, last nite I channel surfed and only Fox was blaming the Dems. Reality is so hard for a two faced twisted liar such as yourself who has been blowing hot air towards uninformed people who did not know to call your bluff that you now believe yourself.

  • Curious

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise there of…” does not mean you can go on a public site and spew your religion in the face of others on this blog, period. It means you can go to your church and have your meetings, sermons and beliefs and no one can prevent you from having same but you cannot get up in any one else’s face with your views or beliefs. I am not spewing hate, it is a fact and if the truth hurts Guest….DEAL WITH IT!

  • guest

    Curious. Prove your statement. Your opinion is worthless. It is wrong. If nothing else, send a message to the moderator and see what they say. I know you won’t because you are comfortable in your ignorance. I don’t have to deal with it. You are wrong. “For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine.
    Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great
    number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” 2 Timothy 4:3. Please don’t deal with it. Go to work for the Iranians you have the same ideas and hatred.

  • guest

    Who cares who gets blamed. I don’t. The problem is not resolved. It will surface again.Your great leaders solved nothing, They kicked the can down the road. Tell me one station you watched that is not in the pockets of the Dems. You just don’t get it. Your partisanship is so deep and so full hatred and bitterness you would cut your noses off if you thought it spewed Republican mucus. Yeah you called my bluff alright. Your ignorance is only exceed by your stupidity. Take more senility bills. Your are seriously mentally deficient.

  • Curious

    Tell your story to an Atheist or a Buddist or any other Religion other than Christian. Not all cultures in the world believe as you do and you do not have the right to get up in another persons face and spew your opinion any more than you have the right to blow smoke in their face. Just like your telling me to move out of the country…I have as much right to live here as you do. Hate is relative…one could say you hate women the way that you have so little respect for their desire to make their own decision about their bodies. They are not your daughter or wife, why should it matter to you or why should it be your business if they want to take birth control pills. Get over yourself, you are only a speck in a nats eye. Go bellow at the women that have to listen to you because they are a family member.

  • Curious

    You are indeed hopeless…Now you don’t care who gets blamed since the blame falls on the R party and it cost the people $24 Billion. R would not budge so the can gets kicked down the road and Ted Cruz is on TV today stating the R will start it all over again. I’m not calling your bluff, I am saying go huff and puff at the women in your house and blow your house down cuz the rest of the world does not care about your radical, distorted, perverted, obsession with healthcare issues for people less fortunate than you and especially the issue of a woman’s reproductive rights. Choice is a fundamental right of all people in this country. We do not have to do as you say or believe.

  • guest

    Well first of all, I never said anything against birth control. So quit wasting your meager welfare on the wacky tobacy you are smoking. Once again you have been proven wrong in your assessment of what anyone else has said. I don’t care what women do with their body. I defend the right of a helpless child of God to be killed without having any say. Your body stops at the umbilical cord. And yes we can talk to anyone we like about anything we like. Your senility is astoundingly deep. Your ignorance is becoming legendary on this site the more you put out your propaganda. You can’t even get something like religion and the law right. It is a simple concept even a 5 year old could understand. Your are indeed a simpleton with no clue. Don’t justify your murder to me. You can justify it to him when judgement day comes. I’m sure you will not understand when he names names and you have no idea what he is talking about. It would be the names of those you help to terminate.

  • guest

    Why does everyone get a choice but the child in the womb? Because god Curious says so? I don’t know what bluff you are talking about. You have a bad case of hypoxia, your brain is out of oxygen. Go get a fresh bottle. By the way, how has your sign up for obamacare gone? To embarrassed to tell anyone? thought so.

  • Curious

    For some one who doesn’t care what a women does with her body but yet you speak for the “right of a helpless child of God to be killed without having any say”. “A child” according to science is a group of cells, no brain, no communication system, no head, no body AKA a Zygote. But according to the world of Guess who knows more than any one except God, it’s a “child” and even if the Doctor who knows more than Libertarian01a AKA Guest states if we do not terminate this pregnancy (when the mass of cells has actually become a fetus) the mother will die. Mr. know it all says, kill the mother, save the child but excuse me I will not vote to support any program that is a government give away to provide food or shelter for that child. Because I don’t believe in big government and I believe if you can’t take care of yourself then you deserve to starve to death cuz I made my money now screw you. Oh forgive me, you said you do donate to Wounded Warriors. I will contact President Obama and see if you can get a medal for that. For a righteous man you certainly are an expert at throwing insults at some one that you have no idea of what I have done nor what road I have traveled down in my life. Nor do I have to explain same because of a heathen like you.

  • Curious

    Ha, Ha…I have the Affordable Care Act insurance for myself and my 50 y/o terminal quad. Thank you for asking!

  • guest

    Well let’s see where your dementia has lead you this time. You believe that a doctor has more right than me to define what it is a child or not. A doctor like any man is biased and not objective. So I go to the even higher source. So even though you do not believe in God. I do and his morality far surpass’ yours and the doctor. Remember, God created the doctor and the scientists. I never said anything about abortion and the life of the mother. Another of your drug induced fantasies. It is the church’s responsibility to provide for the poor and oppressed. They have given up that authority to a government who does it poorly and waste precious resources and does it not out of their heart but out of a unquenchable thirst for power. Politics has ruined the church and made it into a civil religion. How has that been working for you? Obviously things must be great for you because your god Obama has been in office over 5 years now. Never said you should take care of your self if you can’t. Another drug induced fantasy. What you have done or been is not relevant to the hate and ignorance you now spread. Your lies grow bigger every day. Your ignorance is unquenchable. It is like you strive to be the dumbest. But I realize it is all about the hate and bitterness you have. Your insides must truly be eaten up by those two items to the point you no longer have rational thought. God can help. If you once believed he said it is hard to get back but not impossible. I can not fathom living a life as corrupt as yours. Your lashing out and lying are a pitiful example of a way to live a life. May you some day find Gods peace and joy.

  • guest

    That’s not possible since it doesn’t start until next year. But nice try! But I do hope you get it and hope it is affordable. Will you thank those who pay vastly inflated prices so you can get the reduced price? Or is it that you are just entitled to it and no thanks need be given.

  • guest

    Any proof yet? chirp chirp chirp go the crickets. She is speechless. she has no proof. The truth will out!!!!

  • guest

    It worked for the Vietnam war protesters. Don’t ever count out the ability of a good long protest to change things. Remember it is because of such thing that you get to vote, terminate God children, blacks are more than 3/5 of a person and gay marriage is now legal by the Feds.

  • guest

    Either sign up or quit writing fantasies about it. Oh I forgot you are the great and powerful Hu. rules do not pertain you. And you certainly are not stupid enough to follow your own rules. Was that an oxymoron:) No, just Hu! Since you have your own have health care paid for also, maybe you should tone down a bit before Delta Dawn goes after you. You bourgeois pig you.

  • HuGnu

    I do not know why you are searching back into the archives to find something to make a smart ass comment about, but it is not needed. You continue to violate the terms of service for this site, and continue to attempt to harass. Neither of these are legally or ethically allowed, and do not show the maturity expected at your age.
    You continue to try to bait for a fight, as all you appear to be doing is being argumentative and combative. No one appreciates this. Thank you.

  • Curious

    I did not say it was activated, I said I have it! I am signed up/

  • Curious

    “Politics has ruined the church and made it into a civil religion.”. The question is…How’s that been working out for you? Seems to me those of your ilk are ending up in jail for killing doctors like ie; Dr, Tiller or for stirring up hate crimes against gay people. Once again your argument becomes your belief but it is not the belief of all people so it does not mean WE are all corrupt and you are perfect. End of discussion.

  • Curious

    Notice how guest is now calling it the ACA instead of Obama care since the America people realized this latest stint of the R cost us $24 B…Not to fiscally conservative! ! !

  • guest

    Well I haven’t killed anyone or been responsible for killing any in my life time. You certainly can not say the same. For me it makes it harder. Because of fools like you who do not understand what a Christian is and you blame the work of crazies on a faith you have no understanding of. You spread lies and deceit,

    Thou lovest evil more than good; and lying rather than to speak righteousness. Selah.

    Job 13:4, “But ye are forgers of lies, ye are all physicians of no value.”

    Psalms 58:3, “The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.”

    Isaiah 28:15,17, “Because
    ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement;…for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:…the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.”

    Nothing says it better than then God’s word.

  • guest

    I am happy for you!

  • HuGnu

    Libertarian01/Guest/guest/guess/BAM’s little helper is not a conservative of any kind. He is just a miserable old man so deeply frustrated by his failures in life that he is a ball of hatred. He tries to rip off families through his daycare scheme, but even that has not been successful for him. He is not so enamored with BAM – who he thinks is his friend (not understanding that BAM is antisocial and not able to really form friendships)
    But they really deserve each other, as they both love to tear down, and neither can form a positive argument for any position that they “hold.” I doubt either one has any real convictions or beliefs.

  • guest

    So says the only person on this site to use foul language.

    Twang!

  • guest

    Actually, it’s just easier to write ACA. Don’t read any more into it, your crystal ball broke quite a few years ago. Go get some more oxygen.

  • HuGnu

    It is good that your mother is no longer around to see how much of a disappointment you have become.

  • guest

    WOW, we must be Hu clones. That is the best, most concise description of you that I have read yet. Question, if you are such a learned and intelligent man, you seem to believe you have such an important job in North O, why do not tell all of this to the powers that be in the city? Probably because they know who you are, you have nothing of value to add, so you troll around down in the trenches looking to build your fragile self esteem, that must take a lot of hits from the important people in town who ignore you. Even the little people just keep you around for the fun of mocking you. Obviously one of the degrees was not in psychology. All those degrees and you have to be down here with us. (Although I have 2 degrees) How humiliating must that be. Small man, big ego, nothing of value to contribute. The big guys won’t let you play so you try to find some place where you can be superior. Here’s a little hint, you would not be superior even in the state mental hospital.
    Twang

  • guest

    Small man bruised ego, can’t play in the big sandbox. Goes after dead mothers. Looser!!!!!!!!
    Twang

  • HuGnu

    more displays of his frustration and hatred.

  • HuGnu

    no – you went after your dead mother because you are a loser, and a disappointment to her.

  • HuGnu

    surely this is not the way you show respect for her, by this behavior?

  • HuGnu

    You just prove the hypothesis that you are a sad and frustrated failure who wants to blame others for his failures.

  • guest

    Must hurt. All those degrees. So many ideas to make things better. You are certainly smarter than most of them. Yet, they treat you like a boil. Can’t play in the big sand box. Poor Hu. I guess you are subconsciously a necrophiliac also. Your list of sickness’ fits your profile very well. How about a new game show right here. It will be called the biggest looser. You could win by default in a landslide.

    Twang

  • HuGnu

    You link up with an internet terrorist who is despised by everyone in the room (except his adorning fan – you, who bathes in every word that he says.) Look at you life man, is this what your mother expected? You turn from her, from your former church, from the kids in day care to imitate and on line asshole? And you call others “Loser” LOL a million times.

    And you pull your own “strings” to do this, with adequate warnings and positive confrontations.
    And still you insist on acting like a child, and one who rejects his mothers teaching.
    Some example you are for the kids in day care.

  • guest

    Come on Hu. with all those smarts and 3 degrees the best you can do is steal someone else stuff? I would expect more from such a big and important man.
    Twang

  • HuGnu

    I am not aware of any respected people treating me “like a boil.” I am actually quite respected and sought out. But I do not spend time on line looking for ways to impress an online bully. That is your MO.
    And when you get so absurd, you are just looking like a sad grumpy man. You do have my pity.
    I have tried to help you, but you run to the devil himself for comfort. If you had a soul, you could sell it to him, but you seem to be just an empty shell of what God created. Unfortunately with all the Bible Study you led, you forgot to actually take any of it to heart yourself.
    I would encourage you to take a break from the computer until you can get a grip on yourself, and not allow BAM to take you down under forever.

  • HuGnu

    I doubt you expect anything. You are just a waste of God’s work.

  • guest

    Twang:)

  • guest

    TWANG!

  • guest

    What a vile and nasty man you are. And for to all see, Hu, so depraved he makes jest about a man’s dead mother. You truly are a putrid man with a twisted mind. All those degrees and you still can not be civil. No wonder they don’t let you in the big sand box. Even for corrupt as they are, they won’ play with the likes of you.

    Twang

  • guest

    Actually, if any of that were true, you would not be trying so hard to impress. I’m glad to see Curious is sharing not only her bed with you but also her recreational drugs. Delusional much!

    Twang

    how much lower can he go. return to your own vomit dog.

  • HuGnu

    I did not joke about your mother, but you are no tribute to her. You are the one who is vile and disgusting and trying to make jokes at other’s expense.
    Answer honestly, did you mother raise you to be like this?

    BTW – no one reads the out of date entries from Deana – so if you thought you were parading around for anyone other than BAM, (and you will have to wait until he combs through to do what you do) you are mistaken.
    Why is it that you are continuing to make more “jokes” at your mother’s expense?

  • HuGnu

    I am not trying to impress anyone. There is no one here – especially you – that I would want to impress.
    I am not the one that is playing your game.

    What is your obsession with Curious about? Are you just vindictive to anyone who has shown that you are wrong o the facts, and that you immediately respond in a childish manner (as you just demonstrated once again)
    Do you really have nothing better to do that write this stupidity? What is your goal? Do you feel better about yourself when you insult others? Did you learn that from Bible Study or Day Care?

  • guest

    TWANG

  • guest

    Twang! How many times before he moves on. That is the game. The same one BAM plays.

  • guest

    The obsession is, how are you and she so closely connected. Is she your feminine side coming out? Are you blood related? Do you go to the same meetings to discuss the same things. You guys think alike, You both refuse to accept facts. You both think you know it all. You are both wrong so many times but when proven so just attack and call names. It can not be a coincidence. I must admit, it baffles me. The sleeping and living together makes the most sense. Maybe you just both bring your computers to one another’s house and that’s how it works. In any case, two sides of ignorance so closely in sync is an anomaly.
    Pong

  • guest

    Well Hu. That is where you are wrong. Many watch what goes on here in the history. Mainly because Hu the condescending jerk is getting jerked around again. Whether it is me or BAM, or someone else. They understand the game you can not. They snicker at your inability to control your compulsion to always answer. They wait to see how much further you will sink into your vile and putrid mind to try and keep up. Because you can’t do it with whit or intelligence, you resort to going after a man’s dead mother. It’s all you have left. You have been stripped naked for all to see and they mock you in places you don’t even know about. Becka did you favor. He stopped you from embarrassing yourself even more to a larger crowd. It is an insult to Gollum to even use his name for you. Crawl back in your vomit and come up with another of your vile writings. I know what you will do before you will even do it. See BAM, I told you. I win the bet.

  • guest

    Pong, pong, pong pong.

    But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. These are what defile a person.

  • HuGnu

    BAM

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    Well Hu. That is where you are wrong. Many watch what goes on here in the history. Mainly because Hu the condescending jerk is getting jerked around again. Whether it is me or BAM, or someone else. They understand the game you can not. They snicker at your inability to control your compulsion to always answer. They wait to see how much further you will sink into your vile and putrid mind to try and keep up. Because you can’t do it with whit or intelligence, you resort to going after a man’s dead mother. It’s all you have left. You have been stripped naked for all to see and they mock you in places you don’t even know about. Becka did you favor. He stopped you from embarrassing yourself even more to a larger crowd. It is an insult to Gollum to even use his name for you . Crawl back in your vomit and come up with another of your vile writings. I know what you will do before you will even do it. See BAM, I told you. I win the bet.
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  • HuGnu

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  • HuGnu

    Dan Brant:
    Wow. Bigotry calling out bigotry, hypocrites calling out hypocrites, and condemning hate speech with hate speech. As a Christian, all I care about is what the Bible says. It says there is no such thing as Christian activists. People on both sides like to say what would Christ do? He would submit himself to the authorities and suffer under them to the glory of God. All the Christians need to do is read what the Bible commands them to do. Test what your leaders say against the Bible. Start by reading 1 Pt 2: 23 When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Or how about Acts 5: 41 The apostles left the Sanhedrin, rejoicing because they had been counted worthy of suffering disgrace for the Name. 42 Day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Christ.” Every thing Christians do is to be to the glory of God. This action brings not glory but dishonor. Not once did Jesus or his disciples petition, lobby or try to get the Roman government to change any of their laws. Indeed, no where in the Bible are Christians commanded to make anyone live under Biblical laws, we are not to change society but to convert individuals. We can not save the world for it is not God’s plan and to try and do so is against God, just as Romans tells us rebelling against the government is the same as rebelling against God.

  • HuGnu

    Dan Brandt: The problem is they do not allow for those of us who are apolitical. I no longer care and I am working hard to separate the politics from my life. I don’t vote any more and believe I already know what the outcome is. If that makes me very deep in my faith, that is fine. But they don’t give that option. Fact is, after voting for over 4 decades and working as a Fed for 25 years. Neither side is worth the effort to research and vote for because each side will screw you. Just indifferent ways. Why did I take this survey? To see if it really works. It does not. Voting records show that more citizens usually don’t vote than do. They will not take this survey and without their input, it is worthless.

  • HuGnu

    Dan Brant/Libertarian01/guest(Guest)

    You may not realize that your trail of comments under these names is very well connected and has quite a historical trace on the web.
    It is easily accessible for anyone considering a Day Care Provider, as well as for the agencies that license and contract for your business.
    For the protection of children, you either need to get help from your obsessive, childish display of hatred, or need to close your business and stop subjecting other families to your abhorrent behavior.

  • HuGnu

    Dan Brant/Libertarian01/guest(Guest)

    You may not realize that your trail of comments under these names is very well connected and has quite a historical trace on the web.
    It is easily accessible for anyone considering a Day Care Provider, as well as for the agencies that license and contract for your business.
    For the protection of children, you either need to get help from your obsessive, childish display of hatred, or need to close your business and stop subjecting other families to your abhorrent behavior.

  • guest

    Either sign up or don’t but QUIT YOUR BITCHING.

  • HuGnu

    Dan Brandt, Day Care Provider and resident of Plattsmouth, friend of BAM – the most disliked character on Discus.
    Have you no shame? Did all of your mother’s good intentions fail? Do you really hate her that much?

  • guest

    I do not know your relationship with God. That is between you and Him. But I know his words says:

    Haughtiness is a bad quality or characteristic that is deeper than a mental conclusion. Jesus Christ named it along with murder, thievery, blasphemy, and other wrongdoing and said that “from inside, out of the
    heart of men,” such things issue forth. (Mr 7:21, 22)

    Disdainful pride; superciliousness; arrogance. Haughtiness is the opposite of humility.

    That is why Scripture says: “God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble.”

    So it seems obvious to me that you have no standing to invoke His name for any reason. Indeed, to invoke his name not for His purpose but for your own is a very big transgression against him.

    So since the Bible states we should in all humility consider everyone greater than ourselves, your bad example of what not to be has made me realize that I need to step up my game and go back to Him. Because we are not to support anything that makes our brother stumble and I have obviously made you stumble badly, I shall stop replying to you in the hope you can recover from your sin against God. I will work on mine also.

  • HuGnu

    and it is apparent that you have no relationship with God.

  • HuGnu

    if this is an attempt at an apology, then you need to make it louder and without any conditions.
    Yes you need to step up your “game.” but not by being hateful, or by excusing your behavior by blaming others. Own what you did, accept it, proclaim it, confess it. Only then will anyone believe that you are truthful about your intentions about God. – who you should be trying to please and not BAM.
    Good luck on your journey.

  • Curious

    Please tell me it isn’t so? Libertarian01a/Guest is not legally allowed to provide day care for children here in Omaha? I thought he was a former “Government employee and now a part time Lowes worker.

  • guest

    Twang

  • guest

    Twang, checkmate! See ya goat!

  • guest

    Heb 12:6-8 (KJV) For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth
    every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with
    you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
    But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are
    ye bastards, and not sons.

    Be Like Christ

    2 Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any [a]affection and compassion, 2 make my joy complete [b]by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, intent on one purpose. 3 Do nothing [c]from [d]selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves; 4 do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others. 5 Have this attitude [e]in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be [f]grasped, 7 but [g]emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death [h]on a cross. 9 For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

  • guest

    I Never Knew You

    21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many
    will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your
    name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your
    name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

    “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

    True and False Prophets

    15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

  • guest

    Give it your best shot!

  • guest

    You know what I like best about you, your arrogance. Proclaiming ahead of time on a public forum your intent and motivation. The fact is, you can try to tie them altogether, but if you fail, or even if you don’t, I will own not only you but everything you own. And I imagine there are more than enough people on this site who would love to see it happen that I would not want for supporters. Do not EVER issue empty threats,it is one the most stupid things you can do and most adults know you don’t even do it with children. So either put up or shut up. You scare me not.

  • HuGnu

    He does not even live in Omaha

  • HuGnu

    Did BAM hijack your account, or have you two decided to always write at the same times? It is amazing that your comments come within minutes of each other all the time.

  • HuGnu

    WOW, you joke about your dead mother and mock GOD, and just crawl on your belly to please BAM. Is pleasing him that important to you?

  • HuGnu

    And you just prove that even Satan can quote Scripture for his own purposes. It is clear that the devil is your only master, as you show your hatred for GOD is every “TWANG” “PONG” and other childish reply.

  • HuGnu

    But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons

  • HuGnu

    But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons

  • HuGnu

    I am guessing that everyone knows that you are a false prophet.
    or maybe that you are only the prophet of your God, BAM

  • HuGnu

    I think you are doing fine as giving it yours. (and BAM’s – talking about having strings pulled. He calls all your moves.)

  • HuGnu

    There is no need to be scared, just to realize that you are only destroying your own reputation, and for the sake of your love affair with BAM. No one has ever thought your posting is worth much, but BAM enjoys pulling your strings and watching you dance for him.
    Does he feed you and bathe you as well? It is pretty obvious that you cannot think on your own. Does he even control your faith?

  • Curious

    That is a relief…Back in the late 90′s it was believed that there were a number of cults around Omaha that were an endangerment to young teens and younger children and I found some of his post down right frightening.

  • HuGnu

    oh he is still dangerous.

  • HuGnu

    Any follow ups on the corrections to the system and the ability of people to both browse and enroll?

  • HuGnu

    Thou lovest evil more than good;

  • HuGnu

    So are you and BAM living and sleeping together, as you seem to be in sync to the minute.

  • HuGnu

    You are seriously not trying to be a BAM follower are you? You have enough trouble being thought of as a credible poster here.

  • HuGnu

    While all are just tired of your posting in general.

  • guest

    I do believe it is you who sacrifices unborn children to your god! Do you eat them?

  • 44Grim

    so they have purchased bloated under-caring health care plans, or just tried a few times to create an account?

  • 44Grim

    you guys aren’t having an increase in premiums? lucky, you are.

  • 44Grim

    constitutional right, you say?
    something akin to ‘Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof’?

    If that’s a ‘wall of separation’, then it’s on the government side, not the faith side. do you know where the phrase ‘wall of separation’ comes from, or why it was brought up?

  • 44Grim

    why would any other network ‘blame’ the Dems? They’re in bed together, so they’ll blame the people that are working towards a smaller government. A small government reduces their power, which is the crux of the problem for them.

  • 44Grim

    well, the supposed cost was $24 billion, and the dems spent $350 billion the first day they could. I’d say they saved quite a bit of money…