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PA: Details muddy validity of signatures in Johnson ballot challenge

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By Melissa Daniels | PA Independent

Gary Johnson, Libertarian Party candidate for president, must have 20,601 valid signatures to get on the Pennsylvania ballot.

HARRISBURG — After days of tedious signature scrutinizing in Philadelphia and Harrisburg, the race to get Libertarian Gary Johnson on Pennsylvania’s presidential ballot is coming down to the details.

The Pennsylvania Libertarian Party needs 20,601 valid signatures to secure Johnson’s ballot line. But is a signature valid on a petition if the address doesn’t match the state’s voter registry? And what constitutes a valid date?

A panel of three Commonwealth Court judges will answer these types of questions next week, and neither side show signs of backing down.

The Pennsylvania Republican Party first challenged the petition to get Johnson on the ballot. Now, after scores of volunteers from both parties have reviewed more than 49,000 signatures to determine their validity, around 15,000 are still in question and thousands of others were thrown out.

The Libertarian Party estimates it is around 4,000 signatures away from getting Johnson on the ballot.

Tom Stevens, president of the Pennsylvania Libertarian Party, said this vetting process is just one way to keep two-party control and calls for easier ballot access for all third parties.

“The process is the equivalent of dealing with a pit bull on steroids biting at my arm, my leg, my head, my hair,” Stevens said. “It’s a ridiculous process to have to go through just to get allow the voter an opportunity to vote for somebody.”

Adding insult to injury, should the party lose its challenge, it may have to pay the opposing side’s legal fees, he said.

To determine what signatures were valid, two volunteer reviewers, one from each party, cross-referenced the name of the person with the state’s voter registration cards. It could go one of three ways: The signature is valid, invalid or contested.

Stevens said in some cases, validity could come down to misreading one letter. It’s “extremely technical,” he said.

So far, both parties deemed around 16,000 signatures valid, said Paul Rossi, attorney for the Pennsylvania Libertarian Party.

Other issues such as addresses that differ from what are on the voter registry and incomplete dates will be left to the judges to address. Rossi said signatures falling into those categories total around 6,000 – meaning if the party’s defense on those points is successful, it’ll be enough to secure Johnson’s candidacy.

Rossi said he’s confident the party can win those arguments in court next week, based on federal law supremacy for address laws and when the petitions were printed.

“The date that the petition was redrafted is on the petition and was put on there by the Secretary of State,” Rossi said. “Everyone knows these are all 2012 signatures.”

But Ron Hicks, an attorney representing the Pennsylvania Republican Party, said the state statute is clear on what defines a valid signature on a petition. There must be a printed name, a signature, a house number, street name, city and a full date, including the year.

“The election code requires that certain people have a threshold, and we don’t believe they’ve met that threshold,” Hicks said.

Valerie Caras, spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Republican Party, said duplicate signatures and those of dead voters were uncovered in the review process, along with signatures of people not registered to vote.

“Our view as a party is we continue to stand behind the objection to the petition based on the fact that there (are) just serious, serious problems with them, and it’s clear, blatant fraud in some cases,” she said.

Third parties in Pennsylvania have a much higher threshold to get on the ballot. Those candidates must obtain a specific number of signatures calculated off the number of voters from the past election, while Democratic and Republican candidates each need to secure a flat 2,000.

Ed Reagan, of Easton, was a lifelong Republican who joined the Libertarian Party this year. He came to Harrisburg this week to join the team of volunteers to review signatures.

Reagan said the state law regarding third-party candidacy is fundamentally unfair.

“I think the process in Pennsylvania is broken, and you have to keep fighting the process until the process gets fixed,” Reagan said.

Contact Melissa Daniels at melissa@paindependent.com.

 

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joey-Maumoynier/712792545 Joey Maumoynier

    Every party should have the same requirements.

  • politicalcynic

    To determine what signatures were valid, two volunteer reviewers, one
    from each party, cross-referenced the name of the person with the
    state’s voter registration cards. It could go one of three ways: The
    signature is valid, invalid or contested.

    REALLY? So the individuals MAKING the decision are those with a built in bias in favor of keeping the third party OUT? What is WRONG with THIS picture.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Suzi-Saul/100003455034311 Suzi Saul

    Thank God for the volunteers! Much appreciated, people!

  • starchild

    The Republican and Democrat establishments have rigged the system in favor of their parties, and use all kinds of legalisms and shenanigans to try to prevent fair competition from alternative parties like the Libertarian Party, and candidates like Ron Paul for their own nomination who do not tow the line.

    It was amazing to see at both the recent Republican and current Democrat national convention, voice votes that obviously failed being recorded by the presiding chairs as having passed, and vice-versa. They engineered Ron Paul out of even having his name put in nomination or delegate votes counted at the convention, and the Democrat leadership blatantly violated the democratic process by denying the will of its delegates on questions concerning the official use of the word “God” in the pledge of allegiance, and the status of the capitol of Israel.

    The two-party ruling cartel is out of control in this country and no longer accountable even to its own elected members, let alone to the public.

  • Thirty-w0n

    If this scenario pans out in favor of Republican or Democrat, then Pennsylvania is killing our nation’s best chance, such a disappointment!

  • NeoNative

    It’s way past time that we started prosecuting treasonous actions in this country. The Republican and Democrat officials responsible for this should be sent to prison.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=40501346 Matthew Reece
  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=40501346 Matthew Reece
  • Anon

    I am one of the volunteers. Just to be clear, there is one republican, one libertarian, and one state employee operating the computer.

  • BothPartiesAreCrooks

    Gary Johnson in 2012 !!

  • http://www.facebook.com/gstachnik1 Gregory Stachnik

    Why are they so afraid of Gary Johnson being on the ballot, if he has no chance of winning?

  • Jason Smith

    This country’s already dead if that’s how you view this election. “Voting for the lesser of 2 evils” is a ridiculous way to vote. I’m voting for Gary Johnson, and if that means corporate america gets their puppet in Obama or Romney, so be it. At least I know, I am voting for the best candidate. Until the sheep recognize the divide and conquer strategy employed on this country, nothing will ever change anyways.

  • Mike Sena

    All this and they know for sure some voters voted 75 times for Obama in the last election and thats an election not just being on a ballet.

  • http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.stump.18 Elizabeth Stump

    I’d like to see the Republicans and Democrats be required to have 20,000+ signatures required each and every presidential election. And then have all their signatures scrutinized by other parties, because dropping the threshold requirement of just 2,000 signatures to the same level as the Republicans and Democrats get to enjoy isn’t going to happen. This is a case where it’s rule of men, not law, because some “parties” get to enjoy special provisions that others don’t and the rules applied are not the same.

  • http://www.facebook.com/david.b.beaver David B. Beaver

    I hate obama with all my heart, but since this is a republican challenge, guess who’s getting my vote if Johnson isnt on there?

  • dan

    one volunteer is a republican and the second is a libertarian. it is not a republican AND a democrat doing the cross examination.

  • partlinr

    AMEN!!!!!

  • partlinr

    I have been a Republican all my life (64 years) and now, with all these “games” and corruption from the GOP my new party is Libertarian! Go Gary Johnson!

  • http://www.facebook.com/david.blau1 David Blau

    Because Gary can siphon votes away in a tight race and play the “spoiler”. Or, looking at it another way, he can be the “king maker”

    Both major parties had better pay close attention to the Libertarians, or we will ruin you.

  • CharliePeters

    California Obama /Mitt November contest would likely give the California winner prize to Obama but how would a 3 way Obama, Mitt & Ron write in vote count end up? RP votes in 2008 were counted.

    The Goldman Sacs-Fed reserve twins might create a fun contest with the Dr.

    60 days in a political contest is a long time.
    Is this game about D R or other? maybe it is about saving a republic. Maybe Obama and Mitt are the underdogs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-R-Harvan/1641721684 John R. Harvan

    GOP are pure fucking scumbags They want nothing but complete and total control over the lives of all americans