Critics say AG Holder’s ties to abortion industry create conflict of interest

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TROUBLE: Pro-life activists say U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has a conflict of interest and should resign. (AP file photo)

 

By Troy Anderson and Will Swaim | Watchdog.org

Eric Holder Jr.’s family is moving fast and furiously to bury the U.S. attorney general’s ties to one of Georgia’s most notorious abortion doctors.

Just cleared in the “Fast and Furious” gunrunning debacle, the nation’s top lawman now faces allegations that his connection to Dr. Tyrone Cecil Malloy is a conflict of interest that helps explain Holder’s failure to prosecute abortion providers who run afoul of federal law.

Critics say it also may explain why Holder has been eager to prosecute pro-life advocates who counsel women outside abortion clinics.

Documents obtained by Watchdog.org show that Holder’s wife and sister-in-law co-own, through a family trust, the building where Malloy operated. A Georgia grand jury indicted Malloy on Medicaid fraud charges in 2011. A state medical board twice reprimanded the doctor.

Holder and his wife, Sharon Malone Holder, an obstetric and gynecological doctor at Foxhall OB/GYN in Washington, D.C., failed to respond to several requests for comment.

But reached by phone at her home in Minneapolis, Margie Malone Tuckson, Holder’s sister-in-law, said there’s no link at all — that Fulton County tax records showing the property belongs to her and Holder’s wife “are wrong.”

HERE’S what tax officials say about the property.

 

“I don’t own this property and my sister does not own this property. We are not technically on this deed,” Malone Tuckson said.

However, public documents reviewed by Watchdog.org show that the family transferred ownership to a family trust in 2009, eight months after President Barack Obama’s inauguration. But even the new deed directly names Holder’s wife and sister-in-law as trustees. After inquiries by Watchdog.org reporters, Tuckson contacted the Fulton County Assessor’s office and asked them to change tax records to reflect the “new” ownership.

But none of these technical changes obscures the Holders’ conflict of interest. Catherine Davis, a founding member of the National Black Prolife Coalition and president and founder of The Restoration Project — a Stone Mountain, Ga.-based pro-life, pro-family organization — said she’s outraged by the revelations.

“There is a clear conflict of interest when the man charged with pursuing those that abuse the system is also one who is engaged in some way with the business,” said Davis, whose organization brought the issue to the attention of Watchdog.org.

Troy Newman, president of Operation Rescue, a national pro-life organization based in Wichita, Kan., said the disclosures help him understand why Holder has been targeting pro-life advocates.

In recent months, judges have blocked Holder’s efforts to punish pro-life supporters counseling women outside abortion clinics. In one case, Holder’s office agreed to pay Mary “Susan” Pine $120,000 for its filing of an “improper lawsuit,” according to a statement by Liberty Counsel, an Orlando, Fla.-based nonprofit legal firm. Pine counseled women on the sidewalk outside a Florida abortion clinic.

“It looks to me like the attorney general and his wife are in business with the abortion industry, which makes a lot of sense and helps explain why (Holder’s Justice Department) is prosecuting pro-lifers and losing the cases around the country,” Newman said.

TOGETHER: Holder, with his wife, Dr. Sharon Malone Holder.

“They have been attempting to prosecute pro-life people under the (Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act of 1994), and as far as I know they have lost 100 percent of those cases in the last four years. This (Malone Holder’s property interest) explains his bias. I don’t think it’s a surprise to anybody that Holder and the Obama administration are extremely biased against pro-life people and in favor of the pro-abortion crowd.”

Fulton County tax records show Holder’s wife and sister-in-law own the building, located at 6210 Old National Highway, College Park, Ga. A statement from the Georgia Department of Law shows the building was home to Old National Gynecology, Malloy’s medical practice devoted to the performance of abortions.

In December 2011, the statement says, a DeKalb County grand jury indicted Malloy, Old National’s owner and operator, and his former office manager, CathyAnn Edwards Warner, on two counts of Medicaid fraud. The indictment alleged Malloy and Edwards accepted nearly $390,000 in federal medical assistance payments for medical office visits associated with the performance of elective abortions and for ultrasound services that were never performed.

Federal funds cannot be used to pay for abortions and associated services, except where the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest or would endanger the mother’s life, according to the statement.

Malloy and Warner refused to enter a plea in the case, arguing the indictment was constitutionally flawed, according to the Georgia Department of Law. On May 2, a judge entered a not guilty plea on their behalf — and then promptly denied their motion challenging the constitutionality of the Medicaid law in Georgia.

Malloy and Warner appealed to the Georgia Supreme Court. The defendants’ brief is due by Nov. 5 and the state’s response by Nov. 26.

Attorneys for Malloy and Warner did not respond to requests for comment.

“My concern is Dr. Malloy’s political connections are so high up that he’s going to end up getting off on these charges,” said Michelle Wolven, the lead investigator and researcher for Eagle Watch, an abortion watchdog group in Dallas, Ga., that worked with the National Black Prolife Coalition to uncover the connections between Holder’s wife and Malloy.


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The same tax records show the building was formerly owned by Dr. Mack A. Jones, late husband of another of Holder’s sister-in-laws, Vivian Malone Jones. Her death, announced in an Oct. 14, 2005 obituary in The Washington Post, reported that she was Malone Holder’s sister.

Vivian Malone Jones was one of two African American students who sought to enroll at the University of Alabama in 1963 only to be blocked by Alabama Gov. George C. Wallace in the infamous “stand in the schoolhouse door” incident, according to The Washington Post and Associated Press obituaries.

Early in the Watchdog.org investigation, Tuckson, Holder’s sister-in-law and co-owner of the Georgia building, flatly denied she and her sister ever had an interest in the building.

“No, absolutely not,” Tuckson said. “I’ve told you the truth: I do not technically own that property. My sister does not technically own that property. And if you say that we do, that is a lie.”

Asked why she used the word “technically,” Tuckson said, “You need to do your own work and look at the deed. I pulled it up, and I’m looking at it right now. We are not on the deed.”

A Watchdog.org reporter asked Tuckson how she happened to have a copy of the deed to a piece of property she doesn’t own. After a very long pause, Tuckson replied, “I just pulled it up.”

Would she share that document with Watchdog? Absolutely not, she said.

“I told you: I’m not doing your work for you. You get paid for this. I don’t,” Tuckson said.

Asked how she squared the document she was reviewing with the Fulton County tax records, Tuckson said, “That’s your problem to figure out. I’m not going to help you.”

Could she explain why the Fulton County Tax Assessor had been assessing and collecting taxes from her and her sister?

“That’s your problem to figure out,” Tuckson said. “I have nothing more to say.”

The next day, Tuckson had more to say.

She called the Watchdog.org reporter to say she had contacted the Fulton County assessor. Someone there had assured her that her appearance as an owner on tax documents “was a mistake” that was now cleared up.

“So my sister and I are not technically the owners of that property,” she said. She thanked the reporter for helping her identify the error and hung up.

Contacted by Watchdog.org, the assessor’s office confirmed that its records had indeed been updated that morning. (At publication time, the online record still reflected Tuckson and Malone Holder’s ownership because, the assessor’s office said, the public-access site is managed by an outside vendor who updates sporadically.)

But the assessor was able to identify the new owner of record: Michael A. Jones and Monica Jones Shareef, a family trust on which there are only two trustees: Sharon Malone Holder and Margie Malone Tuckson, Eric Holder’s wife and sister in law.

Click here to see the deed document.

“Who could authorize a change like that?” the reporter asked the Fulton County clerk. “I mean, what’s to keep you from transferring ownership to me?”

“You’d have to be a trustee on the testamentary trust,” she said. “You’d have to be a trustee.”

Sherry Bebitch Jeffe, a senior fellow at the University of Southern California Price School of Public Policy, said many politicians have trusts or blind trusts and the question always is, as has been debated in this presidential campaign, how blind is the trust?

“So, if you want to give the attorney general and his wife the benefit of the doubt — and if you are a Democrat or pro-abortion rights, you might want to do that — it is not perceived as a conflict of interest,” Bebitch Jeffe said.

“If you do not want to give the attorney general or his wife the benefit of the doubt — if you may be anti-abortion rights, if you may want to raise questions about the neutrality of the attorney general — then you will perceive it as a conflict of interest. Legally, you have to figure that out and I can’t do that. But politically, it’s very clear that where you stand depends on where you sit.”

A blind trust is created so that a third-party manages investments for the actual owner. The owner is kept ignorant about — is blind to — his or her investments.

In this case, politics — pro-life or pro-choice —is probably less relevant than the fact that Fulton County documents reveal that this trust is anything but blind.

HOLDER’S INACTION

Karen Handel, the former secretary of state in Georgia and a former senior vice president of public policy for the Susan G. Komen Center, said she was “shocked” by the findings of the Watchdog.org investigation.

“It certainly underscores the deep ties the Obama administration has to the abortion issue,” said Handel, author of the new book, “Planned Bullyhood: The Truth Behind the Headlines about the Planned Parenthood Funding Battle with Susan G. Komen for the Cure.”

“This certainly seems to shed some additional light into why Obama and his team seem obsessed with protecting Planned Parenthood and abortion rights at the expense of other important issues in the country,” Handel said.

The Georgia and national office of Planned Parenthood did not return calls for comment.

Davis’ organization, the National Black Prolife Coalition, has been working with Georgia pro-life activists on the state’s failure to enforce abortion regulations. Davis also spearheaded a billboard campaign, “Betrayed – Abortion in the Hood,” to call attention to the pro-abortion views of many African-American leaders and the disproportionately high rates of abortion in black communities. Abortion is the No. 1 one killer of African Americans, according to the National Black Prolife Coalition.

“Here in Georgia, almost 60 percent of abortions in the state are on black women, and it’s been that way for 15 years,” Davis said. “In New York, for every 1,000 babies born alive, 1,448 are aborted.

“In every state that reports abortion figures, you will find it’s more likely that black women are leading. In Virginia, it’s 47 percent of black women. In Mississippi, it’s 78 percent of black women. The impact is devastating.”

The Watchdog.org investigation, Davis said, helps explain this phenomenon and reveals why Holder hasn’t more aggressively investigated and prosecuted alleged Medicaid fraud in the abortion industry.

Davis pointed to cases in which activists have sued Planned Parenthood for alleged Medicaid fraud – in Georgia, Iowa, Texas, New York, and Massachusetts – but where Holder’s Justice Department has failed to act.

“The U.S. attorney general has not at all pursued a case against any of them, including this one in Georgia where his wife owns the property,” Davis said.

The controversy comes amid growing concerns about the extent of alleged Medicaid fraud among abortion providers nationwide and a congressional investigation into Planned Parenthood.

In February, the Alliance Defense Fund – recently renamed the Alliance Defending Freedom – issued a report to Congress identifying “waste, abuse and potential fraud by Planned Parenthood affiliates and other abortion providers.”  The report analyzed 10 state audits that uncovered nearly $8 million in Medicaid overpayments to Planned Parenthood affiliates. The report also looked at 38 federal audits of state family planning programs with up to $99 million in overbilling charges.

The ADF is representing two former Planned Parenthood clinic managers in lawsuits in Texas and Iowa that allege Medicaid overbilling and fraud. If the ADF prevails in the Iowa lawsuit, Planned Parenthood could be ordered to pay the federal government and Iowa as much as $5.5 billion in False Claims Act damages and penalties, said Michael Norton, the former U.S. attorney in the District of Colorado and a senior counsel at the ADF.

“Our overall goal with respect to these kinds of cases is to defund Planned Parenthood,” Norton said. “Planned Parenthood is responsible for 350,000 abortions a year and is the nation’s largest abortion provider. It’s obviously well tied in with the current administration. This president is the most pro-abortion president in history and he has substantially direct and beneficial ties to Planned Parenthood. They’ve spent a lot of money in support of this president’s re-election.”

In recent months, various organizations have expressed growing concern about the connections between the Obama administration and Planned Parenthood.

“Under President Obama, we have seen the biggest taxpayer funding of abortion in our history,” Liberty Counsel Chairman Mat Staver said in a statement. “Taxpayers should never be forced to violate their conscience and fund any abortion organization. The Obama HHS mandate will force religious employers to fund abortion-inducing drugs, despite their religious objections.”

U.S. Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., who is leading the congressional investigation into Planned Parenthood, told Watchdog.org that the ADF report and a similar one by Americans United for Life raises questions about the extent of Medicaid fraud among abortion providers.

“Planned Parenthood is the nation’s largest abortion provider, yet last year it received $487 million from taxpayers while having annual income of $1 billion,” Stearns said in an emailed statement. “Although Planned Parenthood is barred from using taxpayer funds to perform abortions, these dollars are fungible and allow the group to use funds from other sources ostensibly for abortions.

“My investigation of Planned Parenthood is the first time Congress has asked this group to account for its use of public funds. Given the revenues of Planned Parenthood and its ability to raise funds, we should end its taxpayer support.”

FINES AND MORE TRAINING

Malloy’s 2011 indictment was not his first run-in with the law.

In 1999, one of his patients lost a baby shortly after birth, according to Georgia Composite Medical Board records. The Composite State Board of Medical Examiners determined that the woman had not received proper treatment. Malloy was publicly reprimanded, ordered to receive additional training and fined $5,000, according to the records.

In 2008, he received another public reprimand, was ordered to receive even more training and fined $10,000 after one of his patients died shortly after a botched abortion, according to the medical board’s records.

In September 2011, Malloy filed papers with the Georgia Secretary of State’s Office to terminate the Old National Gynecology corporation. However, his medical license remains active, according to the Composite State Board of Medical Examiners.

“To the best of our knowledge, Dr. Malloy is still performing abortions in the Atlanta area despite the indictment for Medicaid fraud,” Georgia Right to Life spokeswoman Suzanne Ward said.

The Watchdog.org investigation, Wolven said, makes it clear that Holder has a conflict of interest when it comes to investigating and prosecuting abortion providers allegedly engaged in Medicaid fraud. She said Congress should investigate further.

“I think Eric Holder needs to step down immediately, not just because of this conflict of interest, but with everything taken together as a whole,” Wolven said. “He was investigated earlier this year in the ‘Fast and Furious’ scandal. He’s prosecuting pro-lifers needlessly. They have had to go through the tremendous turmoil, stress and expense of going to federal court just to have the cases thrown out.”

As a former Department of Justice employee, Norton said it’s vitally important for criminal prosecutors to avoid any potential conflict of interest.

“In these kinds of positions, you have to be purer than Caesar’s wife,” Norton said. “You can’t take a chance and scoff at conflict of interest issues. It’s vital to maintain the credibility of the criminal justice system to be above board in all respects.”

Contact Will Swaim at wswaim@watchdog.org. Additional reporting by Steven Greenhut (steven.greenhut@franklincenter.org).

 

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1576515751 Chuck Bryant

    Romney makes a lot of money from abortions, too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/stevetigerking Steve Tiger King

    Chuck, evidence? or just words?
    Me thinks the later!

  • http://www.facebook.com/scott.patterson.758737 Scott Patterson

    Chuck???? Where’s your evidence???

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1463256824 NancyAnn Gabbysmom

    The left is only capable of throwing lies!!! They don’t have a real faith based religion so they throw their attacks at those who do. They don’t want to know the truth or have love for God, their god is the government. That is just how the socialists want it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjgrissom Gloria Jean Grissom

    why do you liberals always retort with ‘the Republicans ‘ do it, too

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/A6EPBIVRDXZD3NOY6KE3WRJE4E Louise

    People always forget about God. They think no one is watching. God has a way of revealing wrong doings. Nothing is worth being separated from him.

  • CaptTurbo

    What’s upchuck?

  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.genest.50 Michael Genest

    Scott, you should give Chuck the benefit of the doubt. Of course, Romney does not, literally, make “a lot of money from abortions, too.” Poor Chuck must be writing in a more figurative sense, as in, african-americans make up a hugely disproportionate share of abortions, so without abortions there would be far more african-american voters, who of course vote against the party that liberated the slaves by 95% to 5%. That’s not literally money, but it’s “money!”

  • DockyWocky

    There is really only one cure for the type of corruption Holder and Obama represent.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LK6LEUXM2PW2A656WPXEBTDGZA Sunny

    heis the next to go…maybe he and obama can have double cells….jail them both….enough of this crap…lets clean house!!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LK6LEUXM2PW2A656WPXEBTDGZA Sunny

    cause thats all they have…their brains can’t go any further than blame someone else… 4 more days and that crap will end !!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Al-Schneider/1475065324 Al Schneider

    There’s ALWAYS a HIDDEN catch and agenda with the Lib-turds!

    The Lib-turds don’t like it…when THEIR DIRT…comes to LIGHT!

    They scatter…like COCKROACHES! :-D

  • Sunny

    Holder is as crooked and corrupt as the rest of the Obama Regime!

  • http://www.facebook.com/june.wilson.9210 June Wilson

    Leave Romney out of it! Jerk!!

  • Dannny Buckles

    That wouldn’t be the vomit chuck spews would it . He must be one of those ovomit lovers.

  • Dannny Buckles

    I thought they were Cockroaches

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jerry-Robison/100000629907048 Jerry Robison

    Holder is probably the most corrupt USAG ever!

  • del

    This guy belongs in jail with his racist muslim boss waiting for trial for fraud, tyranny, treason against We the People

  • http://www.facebook.com/jrhuffman John Huffman

    It makes me sick that our tax dollars are used to pay people to kill babies. Next our tax dollars will be used to kill anyone over 60.

  • Kim Couch

    I agree this article has to with that murdering Attorney General Holder. Not only are they by passing the very laws he sworn to uphold again. When will these “murdering crooks be held accountable” .The libbertards have nothing else the records of this Incumbent and his crooked staff are there for us to see. So bash the Right on an article that has nothing to do with them. Holder is a crook and a murderer . Time to toss his sorry ass and that of the incumbent in federal lock up.

  • http://marcchamot.blogspot.com/ Marc Chamot

    The liberal-left-wing Medias are fighting hard to keep Democrat corruption and their $$$$ alive, while pouncing on Republicans $$$…it’s all about who greases who’s hands and on who’s and what side your on..and for the rest of us??? We GET screwed!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/keta.biro Keta Biro

    That’s a bit of over-reach. The reason they get away with killing babies is because babies can’t speak yet. We old folks can still yell, “Stop!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/internomad Rob Carpent

    I used to be strongly against abortions, but as time goes by and seeing these percentages and numbers I’m having a different outlook. The ones largely seeking abortions are Democrats and likely to be on welfare from birth to death sucking on the taxpayer teet. Furthermore, they apparently are largely black seeking this service. The democrats are huge on the homosexual agenda by which there is no procreation and when there is procreation, they kill it off for a end result of less Democrats, and less homosexuals, less leeches on the Government dole and less blacks to cause racist crimes and riots in places like Chicago and Detroit, well pretty much the entire nation. In short, Democrats are setting them self up for extinction with less procreation and more abortion, especially if the government is picking up the tab for abortions and reforms the welfare laws so these leeches can’t make it a life long career of welfare, food stamp and entitlement collection.

  • disqus_NYf9wMzgqJ

    You can not judge people just by reading an article, unless you have a close connection or having experienced yourself a fact, so please don’t try to confuse people with the facts.

  • plumbrite

    Hang holder,he’s a lemon.

  • dancingontheheadofapin

    Eric Holder is rotten to the very core of his being and will one day answer for his hatred. Only a person who hates can bring themself to be party to the killing of the unborn. It is horrifying to think about, but some people really do sell their souls to the devil. And this administration seems to have an abundance of them. I’m not judging; this is fact, by their record. We can only pray for their souls and the soul of our country.

  • dancingontheheadofapin

    Any time liberals are justly accused of anything, they will then turn it around and accuse conservatives of the same thing, only they are so virulent and hate filled, and make so much more noise with their screaming and rioting that the great unwashed among us believe them instead of the ones rightfully accused. And they are allowed to vote and breed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sigrid.egan Sigrid Egan

    While I believe that Holder is another fraud, I do not know what NewsMax headline about voter fraud has to do with this story. Did I miss something?

  • http://www.facebook.com/john.mohler.779 John Mohler

    We old folks are next thanks to obamacare.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CKL43U57YI4APRIWJ7JH7VB2EY Richard

    This Adfministration and Eric Holdrer should be taken to task, The dangers our system faces today results from a departure from this basic idea, the US Constitution. Gradually, other “ideas” have inluenced legislation which has reversed the roles and given government greater snd greater power over individiduals. The Washington Establishment has become corrupt, and completley ignore the Constitution
    Waste Watchers inc
    Richard Ahern-Vice President
    http://www.wastewatchersinc.org
    WASTE-FRAUD-MISMANAGEMENT
    http://www.judgenap.com
    READ YOUR CONSTITUTION-WHICH IS THE Law of the land-Our laws are based on natural law which is eternal

  • http://www.facebook.com/justmySHCgameacct Loa Attitudeofgratitude

    Ring around the rosie Obummers got a pocketful of posies

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Polina-Maire/1506370525 Polina Maire

    Looks like this administration has the Most of the Most titles …ever….

  • Jacobite2

    Reading the arrogant, obviously-untrue replies by the various women involved, the only word is ‘uppity’. Except in rare instances when he’s off-prompter, O’bwana keeps this under wraps. Americans, make no mistake — this is one book correctly judged by its cover.

  • mark

    hey chuck are you stuck on stupid? Del I 100% agree. Our country sure has gotten sick. We need to hold ourselves responsible, take back our country, give the power back to the states to where they govern themselves. Obama, Pelosi, Clinton(both) and Holden need to go.

  • mark

    i meant holder

  • Wibbys1

    Holder IS a conflict of interest. We have an interest in justice and truth and he is in conflict with it. Seems the whole Holder clan are a bunch of liars.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1800263526 Martha Benton

    What do you mean he was “CLEARED in Fast & Furious”??? WHO cleared him?

  • http://twitter.com/wallyworkswell williamwalter

    Hello! Hello! Hello! What da ya know? What do ya say? What’ya do?

  • RomneyisourPresident

    Chuck, you are a very stupid man.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/27EEWCWITYBKD32PRV44AZX3NM toml

    Technically, she no longer owns the building assuming that the trust is valid, but in function she still benefits from the income from the building. The change to the trust is for most purposes cosmetic (except for premises liability, which is not the point here). The conflict is not cured.

  • G30

    How many Black Babies did they kill?
    What percentage of babies killed there were Black?

  • G30

    He moved fast & furious ops to Libya. Code Pink & William Ayers were there last year helping set up the pipeline.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tussy.tubbs Tussy Tubbs

    Gitmo would be a good place for Holder and BO !

  • Lt_Scrounge

    Absolutely NOTHING will be done to Holder or ANY of the Obamao administration officials. If Obamao fails to steal the election, he will be signing blanket presidential pardons from Wednesday until January 19th. I wouldn’t even be surprised if he resigned on the 15th and had Biden pardon him for his actions.

  • Lt_Scrounge

    Better watch what you post. These guys are going after people over the slightest of things.

  • jjjddd

    IT’S THE OBUMA — HOLDER – BLACK WAY!

  • http://twitter.com/dtorev Daniel Osborn

    Keta is correct. WE can still yell “stop”. Of course the unborn can’t. And lest we forget, which we often do, many of those with disabilities CAN’T. No it won’t be the “old folks” next. It will be the disabled and severely infirm who can’t speak up for themselves and most of society forgets so they have very few advocates. ANYONE who has someone in that condition should be terrified of Obamacare and for THAT reason alone Barry needs to be shining his seat back in Chicago. For all the corruption that has been going on, I agree that Barry and his cronies need to take up space in a Fed prison somewhere in Alaska with the heat turned off!

  • konservative1

    Are you a mandated reporter? I am. Do you even know what that is? Your ignorance is astounding.

  • http://twitter.com/dtorev Daniel Osborn

    He was “cleared” by our joke of a Senate a few months ago when hearings were held concerning ‘Fast and Furious’ in which the Senate Judiciary Committee determined that Holder was not responsible for the operation. Remember that this committee and the Senate are controlled by the Democrats at present. One more reason to vote them OUT of control on Nov. 6.

  • http://twitter.com/dtorev Daniel Osborn

    Would you care to enlighten me, o wise one, about that of which I am supposedly ‘ignorant’? Let’s see. Is it the FACT that the unborn can’t speak for themselves? Do you have evidence they can? Is it the FACT that many of the disabled also can’t speak for themselves? Again do you have evidence they can? Is it the FACT most of our society forgets about those disabled people? Do you have evidence that most of society considers them and is concerned about their fate? Perhaps it is the FACT that over a million unborn babies are killed every year in this nation. Do you have evidence this is not happening? Maybe it is the FACT that taxpayers are paying for many of these abortions. Do you have evidence that this is untrue? Or perhaps you believe I am ignorant of what Obamacare will do? The FACT is that with the full implementation of Obamacare, tens of millions of people will suddenly be put onto the insurance roles without the addition of more doctors. Rationing is the inevitable result of this, and the IDAP (read ‘death panel’) is going to be charged with “rationing” what health care will be allowed and what will not based on the cost/benefit analysis. Those perceived as a drain on resources, i.e, the disabled and infirm, will be judged as not deserving of the often expensive care required, in favor of those who are “healthier”. As to the corrupt nature of the current administration there are plenty more FACTS out there concerning this and I haven’t the time or inclination to educate you on this as well. At least now ONE of us is less ignorant! ’nuff said

  • http://truthbeagle.blogspot.com/ TruthBeagle

    What are you going to ‘report’ him for? His metaphorical statement about ‘obamas shining seat back to Chicago’, meaning voters are going to kick him in the butt and back to Chicago by voting him out? Or are you too ignorant to recognize a metaphorical statement? Or, since you seem rabidly progressive, do you believe a statement is metaphorical ONLY if a liberal makes it?

    Since liberals are FAR more likely than Conservatives to advocate actual physical violence, most Conservatives probably don’t know what a ‘mandated reporter’ is in your context. Not ignorance. We never have a reason to have a run in with them.

    Do you report union thugs, who ACTUALLY advocate violence?

    And about my ‘rabidly progressive’ statement. I’m not certain about it. It’s difficult since you are possibly engaging in the Google-bombing technique that the Koskids prize. It’s taking too long to weed through the posts that you have spammed on several sites.

    Also, he is right about the elderly. obamatax is death to old people, Americans, and America in general. I have read the 2000+ page law. Have you?

  • konservative1

    OK because you are too lazy or ignorant to find out what a mandated reporter is I will provide a definition:
    Mandated Reporting

    Each State has laws requiring certain people to report concerns of child abuse and neglect. While some States require all people to report their concerns, many States identify specific professionals as mandated reporters; these often include social workers, medical and mental health professionals, teachers, and child care providers. Specific procedures are usually established for mandated reporters to make referrals to child protective services.

    Most states include all vulnerable adults in this definition.

  • konservative1

    OK because you are too lazy or ignorant to find out what a mandated reporter is I will provide a definition:
    Mandated Reporting

    Each State has laws requiring certain people to report concerns of child abuse and neglect. While some States require all people to report their concerns, many States identify specific professionals as mandated reporters; these often include social workers, medical and mental health professionals, teachers, and child care providers. Specific procedures are usually established for mandated reporters to make referrals to child protective services.

    Most states include all vulnerable adults in this definition.
    ,
    .

  • http://truthbeagle.blogspot.com/ TruthBeagle

    Wow. You can’t even read a simple post. I tried to spell it out. Conservatives are FAR less likely than liberals to engage in the activity that you were referring to in that particular post, violence, than liberals. My statement of ‘in your context’ was directly relating the TYPE of ‘mandated reporting’ that would have been required by someone who doesn’t have a clue about metaphors (or, as a partisan hack, ignores the fact that the statement was a metaphor since it came from a Conservative).

    I knew what a ‘mandated reporter’ was, and that it varies by discipline. I know someone who has safety certifications that fall under the category of ‘mandated reporter’. If she passes any construction site or is in any business and sees something that is an OSHA violation, she has an obligation to contact the general contractor, owner, or manager of the site or business and/or report it directly to OSHA, depending on the situation. If she doesn’t follow the ‘mandated reporter’ requirements of her certifications, she could be fined and even possibly held liable.

    Me help you to learn how reading comprehension works. Ooop. Too big a word? How reading ‘to understand context what people mean’ works.

    http://www.kidslearningstation.com/reading/comprehension/

  • konservative1

    I have to call Bu11 $h1t on this reply. Here I will quote you: “What are you going to ‘report’ him for?” Those are your words.The first sentence in your original reply. This shows a deeply paranoid reaction to my original post. If I have to spell it out for you then I will. There is nothing in the Affordable care act that calls for the “death panels” that you fear mongering fools suggest will call for disabled elderly to lose their voice. Please PLEASE try to PROVE me wrong by LISTING the part of the ACT that does what you say! Can you provide that now???????????????????

  • http://truthbeagle.blogspot.com/ TruthBeagle

    You said you are a ‘mandated reporter’. Your implication was that you were going to ‘report’ him for some violation. What other reason would you have for pointing out ‘I am a mandated reporter’, other than some odd arrogance?

    Without knowing EXACTLY what part of the post you were referring to, I read it that you were honed in to a part where he made a reference to obama and you took it as direct violence. There are many disciplines that have ‘mandated reporters’. You didn’t identify you area of……’expertise’.

    If you really want to see the details of obamatax, you can refer back to my posts during the year it was passed. I wrote hundreds of posts detailing it.

    It’s a good example of the problem that Conservatives have with liberals and their lies. Liberals can throw out a one-line lie, and it takes pages to dispel it. To really understand the law you would have to read, as they called them at TVNewser, my ‘epic’ length posts.

    The problem with ‘listing a part’ of deathcare is that many of the actions that it creates are intertwined within it, and even intertwined in external bills. It accomplishes tasks, like many congressional laws, by inserting language into other bills. By studying it, and then studying the reconciliation process to dispel a lie by Rachel Maddow, I learned that there is no way to ‘simplify’ the tax code. If you got rid of the IRS, thousands of laws passed by congress would crumble. Many bills insert language into the tax code. obamatax isn’t alone in that regard.

    An example of the complexity. Actions can be easily hidden within it. I don’t remember the exact details that I had for the post but Maddow had made a comment ‘Look!!! Conservatives LIE!!! It’s in there. HERE IT IS!!!’ and she excitedly read a ‘part’ of the act. What wasn’t evident, and even Conservatives didn’t point it out, was that about a dozen or so pages down was an exclusion that completely invalidated her argument. There are exceptions and exclusions peppered throughout it.

    Anyway, not worth getting into now. It’s late. But if Romney doesn’t win and get rid of obamatax, kiss your doctor, an excellent medical system, and the very foundation of America goodbye.

  • Gyst53

    If you think this is bad, check this out and be appalled…

    http://www.postlibertarian.com/2012/03/218-reasons-not-to-vote-for-obama/

  • http://www.facebook.com/mikeleemi Mike Lee

    Could Eric Holder be showing you Obama’s side of OBAMACARE? Makes ya wonder! What you think…. remember a Discussion, no hate here! But worried!

  • http://www.facebook.com/mikeleemi Mike Lee

    COME ON PEOPLE! PULL THEM OUT! Wake up! go and vote! we do not need four more years of this! obamacare or Death care? Is ERIC SHOWING US OBAMA’s HEALTH CARE SIDE?

  • dean deloof

    hey numb nuts, 715 billion stolen from medicare so crack whores can get free scab removal IS a death panel. so shut up hack.

  • dean deloof

    that is a moronic statement. as a white guy, that comment sickens me. i do understand how you feel about these clowns, but color has nothing to do with it. c’mon man. Jesus see’s no skin color. neither should we.

  • dean deloof

    do you have ANY evidence of that. typical liberal. throw out a lie and hope it sticks. go collect your welfare check bum. probably claim you can’t work, but can holler in the streets with all your occupy wall street scum. GET A JOB.

  • KenRoberts200

    Maybe Holder is a hidden Black Panther…or at least a sympathizer on the same physical plane…////

  • http://www.facebook.com/tom.g.enlow Tom G. Enlow

    we have become a nation of entitlements, It seams half of this country want’s something for nothing ! And it’s our fault electing the RAT’S we put in office . This is how a very bad goverment can take over a Nation. Once the bad goverment gets control then the freebies stop ! Think about it. !!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/tom.g.enlow Tom G. Enlow

    P.S. That why Russia after 70 year’s of Marxsism They dumped it. Russia was bleeding to death !!!!

  • http://twitter.com/AKDBBmmC Angela Cleveland

    Be sure your sins will find you out!

  • http://twitter.com/AKDBBmmC Angela Cleveland

    Time to clean out the White House! The Trash truck is coming!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XIRX4ZQRIJDZJY6QQZVACLWUHQ Steven

    I have done research on these commie b’s and they are both moos lems commie b’s. Semper Fi, till I die, OOUURRAAHH!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XIRX4ZQRIJDZJY6QQZVACLWUHQ Steven

    Amen, and when their lips are moving they are telling lies and God hates liars!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XIRX4ZQRIJDZJY6QQZVACLWUHQ Steven

    Yes, I have hated them killing babies for so long, and I am over 60, but the Marine Corps taught me a few things along time ago, and I am still here and I always thankyou, JESUS CHRIST, my LORD, AMEN and AMEN! PRAISE YE THE LORD!!!

  • Zman

    No need to waste tax dollars. I’ll happily eliminate that, which the virgin Mary failed to swallow, for free.

  • jerrag

    You know I used to read of the KKK in horror and those tv shows were just terriable the three letter make most folk shiver however day by day, the horror of the letters decrease, the thoughts of the white robes begin to make more sense, the beliefs of racial purity make more sense, the thought of white power becomes not a horror but a former way of life that I am begining to long for a return. Not kidding. The press and public in general have made such thoughts almost illegal, and to say them makes one an untouchable now days but the times, they are a changing.

  • JBQ21

    Malone is an Irish name and the Malone sisters are very light skinned. The one girl took on George Wallace and then turned around and espoused abortion as a multi-million dollar way to get even.